bernard Wrote:

> Are you claiming that a handclap in front of the
> TofW produces a QUETZAL chirp? The Video certainly
> did not produce the same chirp as the Castillo
> when the guide clapped his hand.

I am not aware of a video that captures the sound of the chirp
from the TofW. My recollection is that it was similar
in character to El Castillo.

> One of the big points made by scholars about Chichen Itza
>is the notable change in how religion was practiced as evidenced
> by the change in architecture. The scholars interpret this
>as follows: The Central Mexican model was a radical departure--
>in Central Mexico elite warrior orders (the Eagles and Jaguars)
>participated in the rituals-- thus requiring a space filled
>with participants i.e. the one story roofed structure with pillars
>supporting the roof.

So the evidence for such ceremony is that this style of architecture existed?

The evidence for the ceremony I suggested is the rattlesnake/bird
(quetzal) sound created by the architecture, the feathered
rattlesnake piers that are part of the architecture and the related
cultural associations.

> No way in hell that you get a serpent flutter from
> a handclap in a roofed structure filled with
> worshippers. You are just resorting to ad hoc
> arguments with no evidence.
See above for evidence.

Is there any reason why this structure couldn't be used for both forms
of ceremony?

WVK