October 28, 2011 08:28PM
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WVK Wrote:
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> Jammer Wrote:
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> > Which means there is acoustics; and there is
> > proving INTENT...
> > the existence of one in no way validates the
> > other... >
> > Jammer
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> Lets take the Temple of the Warrior in CI. We
> have 2 large Kukulcan statues on top with the
> rattles being the highest part of the structure.
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> To the Maya the rattlesnake was more that an
> annoying reptile that bites:
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> "According to the Maya, the creation of all that
> there is was carried out in accordance with the
> geometric design on the scales of rattlesnake. The
> Mayan creator, Kukulchan-KuKulcán, is described as
> a mathematician. The root of the word Tz’akol and
> the Tzolkin (from the calendar system), is Tza, as
> in Tzamná or Itzamná, which comes from the word
> Tzab, translated as rattlesnake, “onomatopoeic
> with the sound of the rattle”, a wake up call.
> Tz’akol is the creator bring who is a god, a man,
> a *bird and a **serpent all in one being known as
> Quetzalcóatl or Kukulcán."
This is just babble. Going to the
Diccionario Maya Cordomex
p. 272 the deity Itzamna's name derives from "itsam" = iguana or crocodrile.
there is no deity Tzamna and neither derives from the word "tsab"
the reference is to the well-known Mesoamerican myth of the creation of the earth from a crocodrilian figure.-- Notice that here we DO have textual and pictoric evidence of wht the Maya believed as contrasted with the absence of quetzal "messenger of the gods" idiosyncratic ethnocentric ideas. Look at google images for Dresden Codex 74 for a picture of Itzamna.
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see the legs!!! no rattlesnake
further tzolkin means "count of days"
essentially as I said babble. contrived gyrations to try to justify a foregone conclusion.
Bernard
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> A clap in front of the stairs produces the *bird*
> chirp and a **rattlesnake like sound.
> "Even more amazing is that in Chichén Itzá that
> same clap also seems to echo back the sound of a
> rattle snake off the Temple of the Warriors a
> split second after the bird sound."
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> I have personally produced this combination of
> sounds.Can we, at least, consider possible
> intent?
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