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May 18, 2024, 8:09 pm UTC    
September 28, 2005 09:06AM
Summation

Having gone over and under the first 22 pages of the "Book of the Hopi" only once, and reading "The Hopi Emergence" which differs in text but not in substance, and yes, it is infinately simpler, as Stephanie pointed out, simpler to read, but underneath and between the lines as multifaceted as the 22 pages of Hopi book.

The article of of the latter adds one interesting and important sentence in the beginning, to wit, "Dawa gathered the elements of Tokpella" or endless space, "and added some of his own substance to create the First World." The same is found in Hindu lore.

In the same article is stated several times that the world was destroyed each time because the people "did not grasp" or "did not understand the meaning of life - during your journey you must discover the meaning of life . . ." And, when the people "arrived in the Third World where "the light was only grayness", they discovered that their bodies were changed again" and "now you are human." This, then, confirms that we were not always as we are now, bringing up Aristophanus, Ezekile, the Koran, and Wagner's Niebelungen, our development "to be fully firmed and formed", or, according to theosophical "rubbish", the time when our "physical frame and brain were not yet sufficiently consolidated, in the physiological sense . . ." because the twin responsible for the earth to "become fully solidified" and us with it, was very methodical in using his hands. No matter which way this would get twisted, that is "the meaning of life", so to speak, which most everybody rejects for reasons of their own, even though it is set forth by so many different peoples and systems.

Instead of the "dampness on their foreheads" in the book, they had "attached an abalone shell to the forehead", which abalone shimmers as mother of pearl.

Here, "Maa'saw" is the "ruler of the Upper World" accessed through an opening in the sky, and he is the "Caretaker of the Place of the Dead and the Owner of fire - and those who received the secret fire from Maa'saw's messenger (the hummingbird) became known as the Fire People." The chief of the Fire People acknowledged: "Maa'saw is our spirit and relative", the handsome man "becoming a little self-important."

Mentioned are "the powakas, or sorcerers, who brought disruption and conflict" by making "medicine to injure those whom they disliked", thereby currupting some of the people of the Third World, nothing grew, "and sickness came. These "powakas" or "sorcerers"
are known elsewhere as the sorcerers of Atlantis. In this Upper World, the material world when they "were human", the twins, having "touched the ground", created from the mud of the earth the Black Mountain or Navajo Mountain, and the "San Francisco Peaks." My previous reference to Califoria with its unique trees and vegetation.

I have pointed to only some of the similarities of the Hopi creation myths and the account of Plato as given to Solon by the "Priests of Vulcan", meaning the Egyptians also knew the story of "their ancestors" as confirmed by the spiral on the red and double crown we talked about, but that's another story. May be that they borrowed a curled up reed from one of the bamboo stalks of the Hopi. Just kidding.

Justifying the German writer, if not myself - with a little arrogance of my own: I was justified when I was five . . . . . the subject line of my first post, in view what surfaced along the way

Atlantis of the Hopi

was ok, it is just the Word Atlantis which immediately ruffles feathers. I repeated the German in saying that there was a giant continent named Kasskara in the Pacific which was the former home of the Hopi. Their teachers, who were the other-worldly and revered Kachina with whom the Hopi were in communication, and that the Kachinas came from an alliance of 12 planets. When readin this with a relaxed mind and attitude, one can remember that in the mysteries 12 planets is always the ideal number and the 13th is the sun, and ane other-worldly beings are always spirits, good or bad, the writer said they were corporeal beings but can be invisible, and with a little imagination one can reverse this.

It was me who made the big mistake of mentioning flying saucers because the nonsense of the Pyramids being built by aliens flitzt acroos my mind. The German phrased it differently, and said it was a "protective shield", of which the Hopi give no "nearer" explanation. The Kachina, I repeated the German, came from a distant planet on ships of magnetic properties, and add now from the article, "when they circled the earth."

Judging by the information, the source of the German writer, and he himself to a great degree, are much like those "who hear a bell ring but don't know where the sound is coming from", (an old Sufi) because they read much in the dead letter always leading to missinterpretation. The above mix up probably comes from a paragraph on page 17, which I quoted before, from the

Book of the Hopi

"Under the leadership of the Bow Clan they (the wicked people who missused their reproductive and gave necklaces to the wicked women) began to use their creative power in another evil and destructive way - but some of them made shields of hide and with their creative power made it fly through the air. On this many people flew to a big city, attacked it and returned so fast no one knew where they came from. Soon the people of many cities and countries were making" these shilds of hide "and flying on them to attack one another."

These wicked people were the above mentioned sorcerers, who work with "magnetic properties" or deliberate thoughts "so fast that no one knows where they come from", at least not when it's happening. This is only a secret to, and impossible to believe in for the many, and I leave it at that.

"So much for today and the rest tomorrow" jokes my friend in Egypt often.

Charlotte





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