Hi Stephanie,

The original information comes from a German writer iirk commenting on Blumrich,s "Kasskara und die sieben Welten" = (and the seven worlds), Hans Anderson's "Polesprung und Sinflut" = (pole reversal and the great flood"), Flem-Ath, Rand und Rose: Atlantis - Der versunkene Kontinent unter dem ewigen Eis" = ( the sunken continent under the eternal ice), and Horn, Roland M. "Das Erbe von Atlantis" = ( the inheritance of Atlantis).

I don't know any of the authors the commentator mentions, the latter simply conveys what he read and voiced great doubts about it, because, as I said to Marduk, there is no evidence of such a sunken continent, but remarks that a kernel of truth can be found in any myth. I agree with this.

None of the teachers or people I spoke to in Arizona said anything about spaceships, and the commentator used the word "Untertassen", which is the plate or saucer under a coffee cup, not a flying saucer. He and I both remarked that the "the idea" of flying saucers probably comes from several systems mentioning that people "came from the sky", to keep it short. Until I see one I don't believe in flying saucers, but do believe of people "coming from the sky" after another manner, the spirit world. I think I was drawn to the Indian lore because they have spirit in everyhting and I can't live spiritless.

My black bear's torso is of a small tree or large branch, his waist measures about 12 inches, his head and shoulders are covered with light brown to orange fur which extends to his waist in the back. His paws are also covered with the same fur out of which come 4 claws. He has black eyes with white "pupils" looking fierce, but not to me. His snout, does a bear have a snout? is grey, his mouth open and very red with 4 sharp teeth and lesser ones, his red leather tongue hanging down. His "breastplate" is a black circle with 15 white circles surrounding a larger white circle in the center. He has two red bands around his upper arms, and the same black and white motive covers his arms from the elbow to the paws. His waistband is of green leather from which hang where pleats are for womens skirts 2 leather strips with feathers fastened in three steps. His skirt is of white leather with a "step pyramid" design ging up and coming down, or one reflecting the other. Red and green yarn coming out from under his skirt covers his legs to his white paw/shoes half covered with fur. These are my thousand words without a picture, but he is more beautiful than that. I have a picture of him but no scanner or digital camera. Someday, I keep telling myself, when I have time. I don't know how you people do work, life, and all this.

I don't know anything about Blumrich's writings, but in reading in "The Book of the Hopi", I agree that a slight slant by Waters can be detected every now and then. The wonderful thing is that it automatically stands out relative to what one can "hear" as true by way of an inner response which knows the true. I know this is laughable to many people, but we all know the truth when we hear it.

I also know that not any one Hopi, or any one person, for that matter knows all there is to know, and know from my teachers and the book that their knowledge base is divided. After I post a few opinions of my own, it would be kind of you to ask your friend Dairy how close or far I am in my understanding.

It's true, when one drives the vast open landscape of Arizona it's hard to tell where one is. I just kept driving and stopping to buy all sorts of exquisite jewelry and whatever else I liked, having casual conversations with the venders. My beloved cat Schlimpi with me lol.

And yes, I can imagin how tiring it is for the natives to deal with visitors, I never asked to have diner with anyone, but in talking to people I just said that I hope they don't mind me coming here and stay for a day. No, I never saw the eagle dancers when I was in Tuba, I was told they would have a ceremony on such and such day but I had to leave. If then was now, I would stay regardless.

I read "Cultural Theft and Misrepresentation" by the Hopi Staff, and especially the doings of Warren Goodman are detestable. I have my own superstitions, or are they?, in that Black Bear kept me from happening upon these people with their seminars and workshops, and their books.

Thank you for this pleasent conversation and all new things I have learned from you

Charlotte