Stephanie Wrote:
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> I'm assuming you mean this J.F. Blumrich, who was
> a Nasa engineer and a fan of Von Daniken:

Hi Stephanie,

I didn't yet have a chance to respond to your former post and the "The Hopi Emergence", which I cross-referenced with the account given by the Germans, the "Book of the Hopi", some of what I remembered from the two Native American teachers, and things told to me by an Indian in the middle of nowhere in Arizona. This man gave me a Kachina he called "Black Bear" with the words: very strong medicine the black bear is, bring good luck for you." Since I loved Indian tradition even then I felt great joy about this gift, layed him carefully on the back seat and smiled for miles Black Bear is over 3 feet tall and fierce looking with his claws, and the first thing anybody sees when I open my front door is Black Bear looking straight into the eyes of a person. Good protection there!

I was on my way back from "Tuba", New Mexico, where I purchased about 5 t-shirt with different Kachinas on them, my favorite being an eagle which I wear only on very special occasion to save it forever lol. For me it is not only reading to have information but I have to live it to enrich my days.

I don't just read something and believe it blindly, it doesn't matter to me if Blumrich was a fan of Von Daniken about whom I no nothing other than his name from being mentioned and what people say about him here and there. Most of it I don't even read. The reason I brought up the Hopi at all is: I saw similarities of past worlds between their traditions, the Eddas, in different words in the Bible,and in the Koran. The Muslims actually teach about Atlantis in school.
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> I heavily encourage you to really be careful about
> what you read in regards to any native american
> tribe. Information about the tribes found on the
> internet is often really bad. Be aware that there
> is no way that any outsider is going to get
> "secret" or "sacred" information from a tribe and
> the majority of people offering this kind of
> information are not native and are total
> outsiders. People seem to find the amazing
> stories and "recollections" to be alot more
> interesting. The reality of the cultures, in
> comparison, could seem very boring. Yet, this
> isn't about finding the version that is the most
> interesting--it is about finding the version that
> is the most accurate.

I know that "sacred" and "secret" is not given out by the Natives, but they recognize a persons spirit and may give a hint or two.
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> Also read this little article that is also on the
> Hopi Nation website:
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> This kind of thing happens so often that is often
> very hard for the tribes to keep up with the
> complaints of the people within their tribe. The
> list of people who write rubbish and profit on it
> is incredibly long. I think I read once that the
> list numbers around 10,000.

Other than the the account I repeated and the link you gave, I have not read anything on the net concerning the Hopi or any other tribe, but reading in the book I mentioned I find close similarities with what the Germans write, and doubt.
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> Some good books about the Hopi tribe are:
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> Hopi by Jake Page (I am currently reading his "In
> the Hands of the Great Spirit" and so far so
> good.)
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> The Fourth World of the Hopi by Harold Coulander
> (Haven't read but have heard that it is pretty
> good)
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> Sun Chief: The Autobiography of a Hopi Indian by
> Don "Sun Chief" Talayesva and Leo Simmons
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> In regards to "pahana" from what I understand it
> means "white man" and is not really a name. Kind
> of like "bilagaana" in Navajo. Means "white man",
> too.

Thanks for the suggested books, I will first have to read the last link you gave, more in my book, and Marduk's links. Now why would he say that I am no Pahana when Pahana means "white man?" . . . . means I'm thinking more than I'm saying.
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> Stephanie
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