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May 18, 2024, 9:09 pm UTC    
September 22, 2005 09:28AM
Yesterday, I should have added that Hiram Abiff built Solomon's temple, the solar system from the molten sea, as it were. And talking about the moon as Swiss cheese - I did watch the moon landing. On my way to work yesterday there was just such a transparent moon hanging in the sky. One could see right through it.

The Ant People of the Hopi

While the First World went up in flames, the people Tiaowa and Sotuknang have chosen to start over again lived safely underground. "Their homes were just like the peoples homes on the earth-surface", rooms to live and rooms for to store their food. The light the people saw by were "tiny bits of crystal in the sand of the anthill had absorbed the light of the sun, and by using their inner vision of the center behind their eyes they could see by its reflection as well."

The Ant People were yet more spiritual seeing by their inner vision.

The problem was that their "food began to run short." It didn't take Sotuknang long "to destroy the world", and not "long to create another one. But it took a long time for the First World to cool off before the Second World could be created. That was why the food was running short."

On one hand, it didn't take Sotuknang long to create another one, on the other, it took a long time to create the Second World. The transition time from one "world" to another, or until a new planet is formed to sustain life of gradually "firming" planetary bodies and adopting to the atmosphere on a given world, takes millions of years, after all, we were billions of years in the making, "they" say. Walt Witman gives an idea of how long in stating "every blade of grass is the journey work of a star."

The First People said to the Ant People not to give them "so much food you have worked so hard to gather and store", but the Ant People were guest friendly and replied "what we have is yours also" and kept depriving "themselves of food in order to supply their guests. Every day they tied their belts tighter and tighter. That is why ants today are so small around the waist." lol

What a fitting metaphor. Here we have Gurdjieff's "frail planetary bodies" of the ant people. But they had "a strong spirit", he says, as I mentioned above, they were more spiritual in the sense of "straining toward" because they were crystal gazers, so to speak, and had "inner vision" which, by now with us is in "obscuration" but is making a come-back. The food the Ant people gave so much of: a former race supplies the next with what they had accumilated and "stored" in body and mind, out of which the next is born, or as Fern has it: destilled from quantitative experience we take a qualitative understanding from life to life, or race to race, just like we grow and renew our cells, for instance, every 7 years. We were them then and we are them now.

"Finally, that which was the First World cooled off, Sotuknang purified it. Then he began to create the Second World. He changed its form completely, putting land where the water was, and water where the land had been, so the people Upon their Emergence would have nothing to remind them of the previous wicked world."

It couldn't be said any better, one world went and another one surfaced, that's why we don't remember or can't find Atlantis, pardon me. But we are still on the moon in endless space, not terra firma, which the Hopi make as hard to seperate from continents on this earth as does Plato in his "fictional inventions."

When the new world, our earth, was ready, Sotuknang was welcomed by the "Chief of the Ant People", Sotuknang thanked them for doing their "part in helping to save these people", the chosen ones of the First World. The other ones go back into "the divine ocean" to be broken down and re-assimilated to have another chance. Something like when one gets ready to cook vegetables, one removes and throws the less good on the compost pile to ferment, adding something irrk so it doesn't catch fire, god forbid the wicked Fire Clan would re-emerge, and the compost is used to feed new life growing.

Sotuknang tells the people that a "time will come when another world will be destroyed, and when wicked people know their last day on earth has come , they will sit by an anthill and cry for the ants to save them. Now, having fulfilled you duty, you may go forth to this Second World I have created and take your place as ants."

So the Ant People, called stragglers by philosophers, made it to the Second World which froze "into a motionless and lifeless lump of ice."

Charlotte

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