Jon K Wrote:
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> one point against the summerian expeditions.
> disease. the Indians didnt fare to well against
> new world diseases later on in history. is there
> any record of strange diseases carting off loads
> of people during any point of their history.
>
> I agree that there should be artifacts if there
> was contact, but if your talking about a few
> hundred people, then your talking about a few
> artifacts. needle in a haystack. we have
> trouble locating things we know are in a general
> area buried 150 years ago. how much harder is it
> to locate a few thousand things over a few
> thousand miles. the odds are against it. so to
> me, its not an argument against contact. but still
> makes it not to likely to have occured.
>
> the main problem is if the same standards are
> applied to evidence across the board it still
> leaves open the possibility that transoceanic
> travel and contact were possible. maybe not likely
> but possible.
>
> Bernard claims there are no references to Q being
> white, it depends on the translations, some say
> light skinned, some say white.
What sources are being translated ? The primary Nahuatl sources are Sahagun and he does not say white or light skinned. The "white"references come from very doubtful Chistian influenced sources like Torquemada-- which is written Spanish. The Quetzalcoatl-Cortes connection had noting to do with skin color it had to do with the authentic legend of Quetzalcoatl being an opponent of Tezcatlipoca and having dissapeared to the east- presumably to return someday. The other datum is the name of 1519 as Ce Acatl (1 Reed) which was also the name of Quetzalcoatl's priest and ruler in Tollan.
Bernard
if Cortes was a
> pure blood Spaniard, then he was cuacasion and the
> Aztec did think he was a reincarnated plumed
> serpent. which ever way you translate the color of
> skin. which means there had to be alot of
> difference between Cortes skin color and features
> and the locals or the Aztecs would have been
> welcoming Q back to the city every day a new
> traveler showed up.
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