Katherine Reece Wrote:
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> Jon K Wrote:
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> > Teotihuacan is in Mexico, and Titicaca is in
> South
> > America. Im guessing you knew that.
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> Are you addressing this to Bernard or Marduk? I
> assure you Bernard knows where each are and was
> pointing out the difference to Marduk.
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> >
> > Teotihuacan "the place where men become gods"
> and
> > is thought to have been of Olmec creation.
> The
> > Aztec settled the ruins and began to build.
> anyway
> > Im sure you all know all this anyway LOL
>
>
> Where are you getting this? The Aztecs found the
> ruins on their migration but AFAIK they didn't
> settle there or build there .. they regarded it as
> a sacred site and made pilgrimages to it but they
> settled where Mexico City is today. According to
> Torquemada the Totonacs claimed that they built
> Teotihuacan ...

LOL my mistake I combined citys. " yes I admit my mistakes" what I get for off the cuff typing. So far there is no evidence to link any tribe or peoples to Teotihuacan building. Torquemada is far from a reputable source for much of anything unless its the inquistition. Sad to say but the spanish in General are not a reliable source for much of Meso History. They had an Agenda and stuck with it, the crown over the years had to step in due the licenses the Regional Governors took with both laws and expeditions.




as far as Teotihuacan it was inhabited as late as 650 AD and at its height held over a 200 thousand people.


At the far northeast of the valley of Mexico, the valley of Teotihuacán is formed, with an extension of aprox., 600 km2, the San Juan river runs by it (its main sewer) and ends up in the Texcoco lake, having numerous springs as well.

Located at a height of 2 200 m. above sea level it is considered that it begun in the II century b.c., being considered the most impotant culture of the central area of the old Mexico.

For the study of Teotihuacán several divisions have been, made in relation to the time and development phases of this culture, Teotihuacán I, II, and III; although after this division was made, discovereys of earlier phases are known like: Cuanalan and Patlachique, very diferent from each other, these phases are considered the precedent of the Teotihuacán culture, since it does not emerge spontainously. During these phases Teotihuacán turns into a large town of more than 6 km2 in extension, reaching a population of 10 000 people.


TEOTIHUACAN II

This period lasts until the year of 350 a.d. Its political and comercial center is built, the Gran Conjunto formed by the Quetzalcoatl temple and the quadrangle in front of it, the East and West avenues are well established, running in more than 3 km to the south of the avenue of the Muertos.

TEOTIHUACAN III

this great final era (350-650), what had been accomplished before is consolidated and it expands, the city reaches its maximum splendor and prestige, although its area is reduced to 19 km2, reaching 200 000 inhabitants (aprox).

[mexico.udg.mx]




"The Aztecs built their capital city, called Tenochtitlan, in the center of enormous Lake Texcoco. The Aztecs believed they were the “chosen people” of Huitzilopochtli and did everything that he desired of them. "During the fourteenth century, Huitzilopochtli told the Aztec chieftain that their new homeland would be on the island in Lake Toxcoco, and when they reached the island they were to look for an eagle eating a snake perched on a cactus growing from a rock or cave surrounded by water. This would be the location where they were to build their city and honor him.” They found this location and began to build their city around the year 1325 AD.

The city of Tenochtitlan continued to grow, having an estimated population of 200,000. The city grew to a point where there was no more room for expansion on the island and they were forced to move out into the lake areas. The agricultural portion of this expansion was successful because of the invention of the chinampas or floating gardens. “The floating gardens were constructed by bunching twigs together then stacking mud on top of the twigs. They were not anchored at first and could be towed until the plants roots anchored into the lake floor

The Aztecs connected the island to the mainland by three causeways that ran next to dikes that were built to keep the fresh water of Lake Texcoco separate from other salty lakes of the area. The dikes also protected the agricultural chinampas. Canals ran between the chinampas; they were used to convey traffic through the city, including to and from the market of Tlatelolco." [www.mnsu.edu]

and so it was till 1521.





>
> > Encyclopedia Mythica 1997
> >
> > in several of the Myths He is also called
> the
> > great white Father, is said to have blue
> eyes, is
> > the King of the Gods, Teacher of Man, The
> Creator
> > God-The Feathered Serpent-The Founder of
> > Agriculture- Precious Feather Snake- The
> Road
> > Sweeper etc....
>
> Bernard asked for a "quote with citation from a
> genuine
> Mesoamerican source" I don't think the
> Encylopedia Mythica meets that standard.

this was meant as general information nothing more, not supportive of any one thing.
>
> > Ill see what I can do about providing the
> correct
> > codex's that list him as blond blue eyed and
> white
> > skinned.
>
> Please do.
>
>
>
> > what is known is that the Aztec arrived in
> Mexico
> > from the north and some evidence actually
> suggests
> > they migrated from the Mississippi
> > river area,
>
> The current thinking AFAIK is that they migrated
> from northwestern Mexico....

current thinking for some, others dispute this with culteral data that links the aztecs with several sites through out the southwest, Texas and the Mississippi Valley and possible further north. what is known is the home of the Aztec is a mystery at this point.
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> should make lemonaide.
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there we go references provided. sorry about that.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/29/2005 01:08PM by Jon K.