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> 1) Apart from the fact that the dates for
> Sumerian civilization and Titicaca, Teotihuacan
> are far far apart. there is the slight problems of
> exactly Sumerians were supposed to make the round
> trip to the New World- much less carry on a
> triving commercial cargo exchange. The reed boats
> shown are not long-range ocean going vessels.

Teotihuacan is in Mexico, and Titicaca is in South America. Im guessing you knew that.

Teotihuacan "the place where men become gods" and is thought to have been of Olmec creation. The Aztec settled the ruins and began to build. anyway Im sure you all know all this anyway LOL
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> 2) There is no authentic pre-columbian source
> claiming that Quetzalcoatl was a "bearded white
> man" stop reading Heyerdahl. Please provide a
> quote with citation from a genuine Mesoamerican
> source that says Quetzalcoatl was a "bearded white
> man"
> Bernard
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Quetzalcoatl

"Feathered Snake". One of the major deities of the Aztec, Toltecs, and other Middle American peoples. He is the creator sky-god and wise legislator. He organized the original cosmos and participated in the creation and destruction of various world periods. Quetzalcoatl ruled the fifth world cycle and created the humans of that cycle. The story goes that he descended to Mictlan, the underworld, and gathered the bones of the human beings of the previous epochs. Upon his return, he sprinkled his own blood upon these bones and fashioned thus the humans of the new era. He is also a god of the wind (the wind-god Ehecatl is one of his forms), as well as a water-god and fertility-god.

He is regarded as a son of the virgin goddess Coatlicue and as the twin brother of Xolotl. As the bringer of culture he introduced agriculture (maize) and the calendar and is the patron of the arts and the crafts.

In one myth the god allowed himself to be seduced by Tezcatlipoca, but threw himself on a funeral pyre out of remorse. After his death his heart became the morning-star, and is as such identified with the god Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli. In dualistic Toltec religion, the opposing deity, Tezcatlipoca ("Smoking Mirror"), a god of the night, had reputedly driven Quetzalcoatl into exile. According to yet another tradition he left on a raft of snakes over the sea. In any case, Quetzalcoatl, described as light-skinned and bearded, would return in a certain year. Thus, when the Spanish conqueror Hernán Cortés appeared in 1519, the Aztec king, Montezuma II, was easily convinced that Cortés was in fact the returning god.

The Aztec later made him a symbol of death and resurrection and a patron of priests. The higher priests were called Quetzalcoatl too. The god has a great affinity with the priest-king Topiltzin Ce Acatl Quetzalcoatl, who ruled the Toltecs in Tula in the 10th century. The cult of Quetzalcoatl was widespread in Teotihuacan (ca. 50km northeast of Mexico City), Tula (or Tullán, capitol of the Toltecs in middle Mexico), Xochilco, Cholula, Tenochtitlan (the current Mexico City), and Chichen Itza.

Encyclopedia Mythica 1997

in several of the Myths He is also called the great white Father, is said to have blue eyes, is the King of the Gods, Teacher of Man, The Creator God-The Feathered Serpent-The Founder of Agriculture- Precious Feather Snake- The Road Sweeper etc....

Ill see what I can do about providing the correct codex's that list him as blond blue eyed and white skinned. but they are out there and predate the Spanish by a large bit.

Originally I was going to post a whole slew of legends, but decided not to take up bandwidth LOL.

this is not to say that I agree that the Summerians traveled around the world. I don't personally. I have seen no evidence to suggest it as of yet.

Also the Aztec moved in and took over from the Toltecs, Mixtecs and others and usurped the legacy of the Olmec.

what is known is that the Aztec arrived in Mexico from the north and some evidence actually suggests they migrated from the Mississippi
river area, and might have been the progenitors of several of the southwest Indian cultures.

The Aztec them selves claim to have been from an island called Aztlan.