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May 21, 2024, 3:47 am UTC    
Roxana
November 21, 2005 06:01PM
Jim Lewandowski Wrote:

> > You're just ready to swallow any
> anti-Cathollic,
> > anti-Christian
> > propaganda hook, line and sinker aren't you.
>
> ***
> Duh, no.

Sorry, that's not what I'm seeing. My best guess
would be the 'secret archives' are administrative
and probably terribly boring - if they exist at all.
What exactly is your authority for these 'secret Archives'?


> ***
> They weren't lost because of being sacked or
> stolen. They just "disappeared" with NO
> clarification from the Vatican as to what
> happened. From my research.

Tell me more about this research please. Sources?


> ***
> No, silly. Mithra = Jesus.

Granted I'm no expert on Mithraism but as I recall
Mithra was an Iranian god with an all male cult, very
popular with the legions I hear. I am almost certain
Mithras wasn't married either.

> ***
> The evidence suggests and shows they WERE a bad
> organization from time to time. THEIR actions
> made it so, NOT mine (nor Brown).

Bad by modern standards which most certainly were
not those of former days.

> ***
> Which? Specifically or implied?

Both.
> ***
> I see. Monk Joe left the Opus Dei organization.
> He then hooked up with militant Catholic
> fundamentalists who now kill people to keep the
> Vatican's secret.

In the book the MOnk is taking his orders from Opus Dei.
I have mentioned that Opus Dei is a lay organization and
*not* a monastic order?

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fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 10:52AM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Anthony November 21, 2005 11:06AM

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Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 11:20AM

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Anthony November 21, 2005 11:32AM

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msteurbaut November 21, 2005 12:58PM

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MJ Thomas November 21, 2005 03:43PM

Wait a minute

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 03:51PM

Re: Wait a minute

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 04:26PM

Re: Wait a minute

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 04:37PM

Re: Wait a minute

MJ Thomas November 21, 2005 07:03PM

Re: Wait a minute

darkuser November 22, 2005 07:37AM

Re: Wait a minute

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 10:11AM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Stephen Tonkin November 21, 2005 11:24AM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 11:33AM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Anthony November 21, 2005 11:42AM

please be more voluminous with info. in your response

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:01PM

Re: please be more voluminous with info. in your response

Simon November 21, 2005 12:37PM

Re: please be more voluminous with info. in your response

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:52PM

Re: please be more voluminous with info. in your response

Roxana November 21, 2005 01:14PM

Re: please be more voluminous with info. in your response

Anthony November 21, 2005 03:15PM

Re: please be more voluminous with info. in your response

Stephanie November 21, 2005 03:28PM

umm

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 03:48PM

Re: umm

Stephanie November 21, 2005 03:54PM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

darkuser November 22, 2005 07:46AM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

MJ Thomas November 21, 2005 03:50PM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Katherine Reece November 21, 2005 11:38AM

stupid is as stupid does

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:03PM

Re: stupid is as stupid does

Simon November 21, 2005 12:43PM

Re: stupid is as stupid does

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 12:46PM

but you can't force anyone to think like you do

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:55PM

Re: but you can't force anyone to think like you do

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 01:00PM

let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 01:23PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 01:57PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 02:08PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 02:08PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Roxana November 21, 2005 03:28PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 04:19PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Stephanie November 21, 2005 04:21PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

ROxana November 21, 2005 05:23PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 05:27PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Roxana November 21, 2005 06:01PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 06:07PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Roxana November 21, 2005 06:20PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 06:31PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Roxana November 21, 2005 06:50PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 07:02PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Roxana November 21, 2005 07:14PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Simon November 21, 2005 05:34PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 05:43PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Simon November 21, 2005 06:18PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 06:28PM

Truth is important, fiction is fine when it acknowledges the fiction.

Simon November 21, 2005 07:29PM

Re: Truth is important, fiction is fine when it acknowledges the fiction.

JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 09:34AM

just a note....

darkuser November 22, 2005 08:06AM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Roxana November 21, 2005 03:24PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 03:57PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Stephanie November 21, 2005 03:59PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Roxana November 21, 2005 05:16PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Stephanie November 21, 2005 05:27PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

Simon November 21, 2005 05:04PM

Re: let's say that these "new agers" actually believe

JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 09:07AM

Re: stupid is as stupid does

MJ Thomas November 21, 2005 03:55PM

Re: stupid is as stupid does

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 04:01PM

Re: stupid is as stupid does

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 04:29PM

Re: stupid is as stupid does

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 04:40PM

Re: stupid is as stupid does

MJ Thomas November 22, 2005 06:57AM

Re: stupid is as stupid does

Roxana November 21, 2005 12:49PM

but it's FICTION

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:56PM

Re: but it's FICTION

Roxana November 21, 2005 01:03PM

IF the Vatican opened their complete documents

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 01:15PM

Re: IF the Vatican opened their complete documents

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 02:00PM

Re: IF the Vatican opened their complete documents

Roxana November 21, 2005 03:21PM

better than that

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 03:54PM

Re: better than that

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 03:58PM

Re: better than that

Stephanie November 21, 2005 04:02PM

Re: better than that

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 04:25PM

Re: better than that

Stephanie November 21, 2005 04:48PM

Re: better than that

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 04:58PM

Re: better than that

Stephanie November 21, 2005 05:25PM

Re: better than that

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 05:37PM

Re: better than that

Stephanie November 21, 2005 06:04PM

NO strawmen needed.

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 06:10PM

Re: NO strawmen needed.

Stephanie November 21, 2005 06:23PM

Re: NO strawmen needed.

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 06:35PM

Re: NO strawmen needed.

Stephanie November 21, 2005 06:45PM

Re: NO strawmen needed.

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 06:50PM

Re: NO strawmen needed.

Stephanie November 21, 2005 07:10PM

Re: better than that

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 04:22PM

Re: better than that

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 04:36PM

But the LARGEST group of any kind in the world

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 05:01PM

Re: But the LARGEST group of any kind in the world

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 05:04PM

do you deny the past misdeeds of the Catholic church?

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 05:30PM

No

Simon November 21, 2005 05:42PM

Re: do you deny the past misdeeds of the Catholic church?

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 05:43PM

Re: But the LARGEST group of any kind in the world

Roxana November 21, 2005 05:28PM

Re: better than that

ROxana November 21, 2005 05:13PM

Re: but it's FICTION

Anthony November 21, 2005 03:19PM

Re: but it's FICTION

JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 09:36AM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Chris Catignani November 21, 2005 11:44AM

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Chris Catignani November 21, 2005 12:10PM

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ROxana November 21, 2005 12:51PM

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Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:53PM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Roxana November 21, 2005 12:57PM

is Brown preventing ANYONE from findout out on their own?

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:58PM

Re: is Brown preventing ANYONE from findout out on their own?

Roxana November 21, 2005 01:05PM

depends

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 01:21PM

one word

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 01:06PM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Roxana November 21, 2005 12:45PM

Re: fiction vs. non-fiction - DaVinci Code, historical "facts"

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 12:51PM

what's the difference?

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:56PM

Re: what's the difference?

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 01:02PM

people are free to believe what they want

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 01:24PM

Re: people are free to believe what they want

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 01:58PM

Re: people are free to believe what they want

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 02:10PM

yes and no

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:54PM

Re: yes and no

Roxana November 21, 2005 12:56PM

Why mention Shriners?

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 12:57PM

Re: Why mention Shriners?

Roxana November 21, 2005 01:01PM

Re: Why mention Shriners?

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 01:03PM

try to keep the strawmen out and keep to the topic

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 01:22PM

do you not understand the word "usually"?

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 01:17PM

Re: yes and no

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 01:01PM

secrecy regarding GROUPS of people (organizations)

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 01:17PM

Re: secrecy regarding GROUPS of people (organizations)

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 02:01PM

Re: yes and no

MJ Thomas November 22, 2005 07:11AM

Re: yes and no

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 10:04AM

Re: yes and no

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 01:55PM

gee, we KNEW what they were doing

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 02:04PM

I'm gonna pass completely

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 02:07PM

Re: I'm gonna pass completely

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 02:11PM

Re: I'm gonna pass completely

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2005 02:20PM

Moderator note

Stephanie November 21, 2005 06:34PM

THANKS everyone for participating

Jim Lewandowski November 21, 2005 07:16PM

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Pete Clarke November 22, 2005 08:24AM

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darkuser November 22, 2005 09:22AM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 09:38AM

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Pete Clarke November 22, 2005 09:43AM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 09:59AM

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Pete Clarke November 22, 2005 10:19AM

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Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 10:25AM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 10:35AM

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Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 10:44AM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 11:37AM

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Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 11:44AM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 12:01PM

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Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 12:53PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 12:58PM

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Stephanie November 22, 2005 01:08PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 01:11PM

Moderation note

Stephanie November 22, 2005 01:25PM

Agreed...

Katherine Reece November 22, 2005 01:29PM

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Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 01:08PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 01:15PM

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Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 01:24PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 03:07PM

Moderator note

Stephanie November 22, 2005 03:33PM

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Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2005 09:49AM

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Stephanie November 22, 2005 12:57PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 01:05PM

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Stephanie November 22, 2005 01:10PM

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Pete Clarke November 22, 2005 09:43AM

The Dei today

John Wall November 22, 2005 08:44AM

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Roxana Cooper November 22, 2005 10:42AM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 11:58AM

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John Wall November 22, 2005 12:11PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 12:18PM

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Roxana Cooper November 22, 2005 10:50AM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 11:39AM

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John Wall November 22, 2005 11:44AM

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Lee November 22, 2005 12:08PM

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Pete Clarke November 23, 2005 03:59AM

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Lee November 23, 2005 09:31AM

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Pete Clarke November 23, 2005 09:43AM

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JimLewandowski November 23, 2005 09:32AM

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Roxana November 22, 2005 12:51PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 12:55PM

responsibility

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 01:01PM

Re: responsibility

JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 01:08PM

Re: responsibility

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 01:12PM

Re: responsibility

JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 01:18PM

Re: responsibility

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 01:28PM

Re: responsibility

JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 03:02PM

Re: responsibility

Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2005 09:53AM

Re: responsibility

JimLewandowski November 23, 2005 10:13AM

Re: responsibility

Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2005 10:18AM

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Roxana November 22, 2005 12:43PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 12:57PM

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Simon November 22, 2005 01:19PM

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Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2005 01:31PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 03:15PM

eureka!!!

Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2005 09:56AM

Re: eureka!!!

JimLewandowski November 23, 2005 10:14AM

Re: eureka!!!

Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2005 10:21AM

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Roxana November 22, 2005 03:21PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 04:16PM

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Stephanie November 22, 2005 05:31PM

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JimLewandowski November 22, 2005 05:53PM

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MJ Thomas November 22, 2005 07:25PM

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JimLewandowski November 23, 2005 08:41AM

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Roxana Cooper November 22, 2005 09:09PM

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Pacal November 22, 2005 08:28PM

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JimLewandowski November 23, 2005 09:00AM

So an author can write anything he wants......

darkuser November 23, 2005 09:58AM

Re: So an author can write anything he wants......

JimLewandowski November 23, 2005 10:05AM

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Lee November 23, 2005 10:02AM

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JimLewandowski November 23, 2005 10:11AM

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Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2005 10:14AM

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JimLewandowski November 23, 2005 10:19AM

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Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2005 10:27AM



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