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May 6, 2024, 3:40 am UTC    
October 16, 2007 04:45PM
lobo-hotei Wrote:
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> According to both quotes the plugs are
> 41.6"(approx. close anyways).
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Actually, the M&R quote is probably the most accurate, and they say 41.3 inches for the blocks. That's an extra third of an inch to move the blocks by any wavering of the side walls.

They could have used water as well as a lubricant. Some have suggested the mortar, which is why it has been found in spots along the tunnel floor. M&R disagree with that hypothesis, by the way.

To take this back to MJT's original post:

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However, taking the Ascending Passage as a whole, its width varies from 41.4” to 42.1”

This means that at one point in its length the Ascending Passage is 0.2” narrower than the maximum recorded width (41.6”) of the granite plugs.

The blocks are less than that... 41.3 inches. His objection has been rendered technically null. Maybe not "practically" null, as you are suggesting here with your suggestion that it would have been too tight at those low clearances, but the claim that the passage was actually smaller than the plug stones is not entirely valid, according to the latest, most comprehensive survey.

I would also like to point out that many of these passages are probably measured at the top and bottom corners. To measure across the middle would require a certain amount of triangulation that might make it time consuming for such a basic measurement. However, there is another fact about the blocks that must be brought up, that I have not seen mentioned here yet, and it has been nagging at me.

The edge corners all the way around the block were all rounded. If the Ascending Passageway, into which these plugs were shoved, had a slight bow to the walls, then the rounded corners would not interfere with the tight tolerances of the corners. In addition, the rounded edges also give the blocks an advantage when being slid down the passage: no hard edges to catch on anything. Why go through the work of rounding the blocks if they aren't going to be slid? It actually makes them harder to handle, I would suggest.

These are practical issues as well, and given the preponderance of evidence for this being Khufu's tomb and these plug stones being standard passage blocking devices, I think the benefit of the doubt goes to the current paradigm: the blocks were slid down from the Grand Gallery to plug the passage after Khufu was interred.

Anthony

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
Subject Author Posted

AP plugs - food for thought

MJ Thomas October 14, 2007 02:09PM

You've completely ignored the answer

Anthony October 14, 2007 03:49PM

Re: AP plugs - food for thought

MJ Thomas October 14, 2007 05:50PM

Re: AP plugs - food for thought

MJ Thomas October 14, 2007 06:09PM

The evidence

Anthony October 14, 2007 07:15PM

Re: The evidence

MJ Thomas October 15, 2007 02:18AM

Re: The evidence

Jammer October 17, 2007 11:25AM

Re: The evidence

MJ Thomas October 17, 2007 11:54AM

Here's a thought

Anthony October 18, 2007 07:04PM

Re: Here's a thought

MJ Thomas October 19, 2007 04:19AM

Re: Here's a thought

Anthony October 19, 2007 08:46AM

Re: Here's a thought

MJ Thomas October 19, 2007 01:58PM

Re: Here's a thought

Anthony October 19, 2007 03:03PM

Re: Here's a thought

MJ Thomas October 19, 2007 04:41PM

Re: AP plugs - food for thought

RLH October 14, 2007 08:48PM

Re: AP plugs - food for thought

MJ Thomas October 15, 2007 05:11AM

Where you probably went wrong

Anthony October 15, 2007 11:35AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 15, 2007 03:09PM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

Anthony October 15, 2007 05:09PM

Corrections for my own thoughts

Anthony October 15, 2007 07:22PM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

RLH October 15, 2007 09:04PM

Note ...

Hermione October 16, 2007 04:24AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 04:53AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

Anthony October 16, 2007 06:00AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 08:22AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

Jon_B October 16, 2007 11:20AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 11:48AM

I stand corrected.

Anthony October 16, 2007 04:34PM

Re: I stand corrected.

Jon_B October 16, 2007 04:56PM

Bad measurements

Anthony October 18, 2007 12:06PM

Re: Bad measurements

Jon_B October 18, 2007 02:42PM

Re: Bad measurements

MJ Thomas October 18, 2007 03:01PM

Re: Bad measurements

Jon_B October 18, 2007 03:14PM

Re: Bad measurements

MJ Thomas October 18, 2007 04:20PM

Re: Bad measurements

Jon_B October 19, 2007 11:15AM

that's not Egyptology...

Anthony October 18, 2007 04:17PM

Re: I stand corrected.

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 05:35PM

Re: I stand corrected.

Anthony October 18, 2007 07:02PM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

RLH October 15, 2007 08:52PM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

Anthony October 16, 2007 04:35AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 05:16AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

fmetrol October 16, 2007 06:05AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 08:55AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

Anthony October 16, 2007 06:41AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 08:40AM

Sub-thread closed

Hermione October 16, 2007 09:19AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

lobo-hotei October 16, 2007 04:33PM

Back to the basics

Anthony October 16, 2007 04:45PM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 05:20PM

Re: Back to the basics

Warwick L Nixon October 16, 2007 06:12PM

Re: Back to the basics

lobo-hotei October 16, 2007 06:19PM

Re: Back to the basics

Warwick L Nixon October 16, 2007 06:29PM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 06:20PM

Re: Back to the basics

fmetrol October 16, 2007 06:56PM

Re: Back to the basics

Warwick L Nixon October 16, 2007 07:15PM

Re: Back to the basics

fmetrol October 16, 2007 07:39PM

Re: Back to the basics

lobo-hotei October 16, 2007 06:04PM

The more I think about it...

Anthony October 17, 2007 10:00AM

Re: The more I think about it...

MJ Thomas October 17, 2007 10:39AM

Re: The more I think about it...

cladking October 17, 2007 10:57AM

Re: The more I think about it...

Jammer October 17, 2007 12:28PM

Exactly my point.

Anthony October 18, 2007 12:08PM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 06:10PM

Re: Back to the basics

RLH October 16, 2007 08:36PM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 17, 2007 03:51AM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 17, 2007 09:32AM

Re: Back to the basics

Jammer October 17, 2007 01:18PM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 06:00PM



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