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May 6, 2024, 2:30 am UTC    
October 16, 2007 04:33PM
Anthony Wrote:
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> Here's what Petrie has to say about it:
>
Quote:The granite plugs are kept back from
> slipping down by the narrowing of the lower end of
> the passage, to which contraction they fit. Thus
> at the lower, or N. end, the plug is but 38.2 wide
> in place of 41.6 at the upper end
*[emphasis mine]*

The above clearly states the lower end of the plug is 38.2(inches) in place of( as opposed to) 41.6(inches) at the upper end(of the plug).
You even confirm this: The plug-blocks for (A) could not have been stored but in the great gallery. In fact they are 1.195 m. high and 1.05 m. wide;The rest of the quote is on the linked page.

These measurements of the plug(1.195m. X 1.05m.) work out to be 47.04715 inches high and 41.3385 inches wide.
In the originating post the ascending passage width was:
Quote

However, taking the Ascending Passage as a whole, its width varies from 41.4” to 42.1”
You have stated:
Quote

Petrie actually indicates they are more like 38 inches wide, but the PASSAGE is 41.6.
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If there is so much wear and tear(from years of neglect) then with the passsage at 41.6 inches that would be the maximum at present.

So from the M&R quote the blocks are 41.3385 inches wide not 38 inches wide. This allows a side gap of approx. 1/32 inch(0.03075) for the lower width of 41.4 inches and a side gap of approx. 1/8 inch(0.13075) for the 41.6 inch width.

Even with lubricant this would be a very difficult job to complete. The tolerances are so small that the blocks would be wedging themselves at almost any imperfection that narrowed the width of the passage. As for the "wedge to the opposite side from behind to unstick these blocks" type of solution, you need to overcome the animal fat lubricant you use to slide the blocks down the passage to begin with for the worker to even reach the stuck block and to get traction enough for leverage to shift the block/plug.


> Clearly the plugs fit into an area 41.6 inches
> wide, and it took a 38.2 inch wide space to get
> them to stop.
>
> You're now somehow saying that a space of 3 inches
> is insufficient?
>
> I think I see where you've gone astray. You make
> this claim in your first post:
>
Quote:These granite blocks total just under 15
> feet in length (there is a 4” gap between two of
> them).
>
> The upper end of the uppermost block measures
> 41.6” in width and 47.3” in perpendicular height.
>
> The lower end of the lowermost block measures
> 38.2” in width (and therefore tapers in 1.7” from
> each side) and 47.3” in perpendicular height.
>
> I think you are misreading Petrie's
> measurements... and I don't think he wrote them
> well, either, so I don't blame you. The stones
> aren't 41.6 inches wide... the passage is 41.6
> inches wide at the place where the plug stones
> end. Read it again from my quote above and you'll
> see how he changes what he's supposedly measuring
> in mid-sentence.

According to both quotes the plugs are 41.6"(approx. close anyways).

Regards,
Lobo-hotei
lobo


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Subject Author Posted

AP plugs - food for thought

MJ Thomas October 14, 2007 02:09PM

You've completely ignored the answer

Anthony October 14, 2007 03:49PM

Re: AP plugs - food for thought

MJ Thomas October 14, 2007 05:50PM

Re: AP plugs - food for thought

MJ Thomas October 14, 2007 06:09PM

The evidence

Anthony October 14, 2007 07:15PM

Re: The evidence

MJ Thomas October 15, 2007 02:18AM

Re: The evidence

Jammer October 17, 2007 11:25AM

Re: The evidence

MJ Thomas October 17, 2007 11:54AM

Here's a thought

Anthony October 18, 2007 07:04PM

Re: Here's a thought

MJ Thomas October 19, 2007 04:19AM

Re: Here's a thought

Anthony October 19, 2007 08:46AM

Re: Here's a thought

MJ Thomas October 19, 2007 01:58PM

Re: Here's a thought

Anthony October 19, 2007 03:03PM

Re: Here's a thought

MJ Thomas October 19, 2007 04:41PM

Re: AP plugs - food for thought

RLH October 14, 2007 08:48PM

Re: AP plugs - food for thought

MJ Thomas October 15, 2007 05:11AM

Where you probably went wrong

Anthony October 15, 2007 11:35AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 15, 2007 03:09PM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

Anthony October 15, 2007 05:09PM

Corrections for my own thoughts

Anthony October 15, 2007 07:22PM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

RLH October 15, 2007 09:04PM

Note ...

Hermione October 16, 2007 04:24AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 04:53AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

Anthony October 16, 2007 06:00AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 08:22AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

Jon_B October 16, 2007 11:20AM

Re: Corrections for my own thoughts

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 11:48AM

I stand corrected.

Anthony October 16, 2007 04:34PM

Re: I stand corrected.

Jon_B October 16, 2007 04:56PM

Bad measurements

Anthony October 18, 2007 12:06PM

Re: Bad measurements

Jon_B October 18, 2007 02:42PM

Re: Bad measurements

MJ Thomas October 18, 2007 03:01PM

Re: Bad measurements

Jon_B October 18, 2007 03:14PM

Re: Bad measurements

MJ Thomas October 18, 2007 04:20PM

Re: Bad measurements

Jon_B October 19, 2007 11:15AM

that's not Egyptology...

Anthony October 18, 2007 04:17PM

Re: I stand corrected.

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 05:35PM

Re: I stand corrected.

Anthony October 18, 2007 07:02PM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

RLH October 15, 2007 08:52PM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

Anthony October 16, 2007 04:35AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 05:16AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

fmetrol October 16, 2007 06:05AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 08:55AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

Anthony October 16, 2007 06:41AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 08:40AM

Sub-thread closed

Hermione October 16, 2007 09:19AM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

lobo-hotei October 16, 2007 04:33PM

Back to the basics

Anthony October 16, 2007 04:45PM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 05:20PM

Re: Back to the basics

Warwick L Nixon October 16, 2007 06:12PM

Re: Back to the basics

lobo-hotei October 16, 2007 06:19PM

Re: Back to the basics

Warwick L Nixon October 16, 2007 06:29PM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 06:20PM

Re: Back to the basics

fmetrol October 16, 2007 06:56PM

Re: Back to the basics

Warwick L Nixon October 16, 2007 07:15PM

Re: Back to the basics

fmetrol October 16, 2007 07:39PM

Re: Back to the basics

lobo-hotei October 16, 2007 06:04PM

The more I think about it...

Anthony October 17, 2007 10:00AM

Re: The more I think about it...

MJ Thomas October 17, 2007 10:39AM

Re: The more I think about it...

cladking October 17, 2007 10:57AM

Re: The more I think about it...

Jammer October 17, 2007 12:28PM

Exactly my point.

Anthony October 18, 2007 12:08PM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 06:10PM

Re: Back to the basics

RLH October 16, 2007 08:36PM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 17, 2007 03:51AM

Re: Back to the basics

MJ Thomas October 17, 2007 09:32AM

Re: Back to the basics

Jammer October 17, 2007 01:18PM

Re: Where you probably went wrong

MJ Thomas October 16, 2007 06:00PM



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