September 14, 2007 05:08PM
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WN: "2. A son of Sneferu Was a priest of Ra"
AFAIK, this originated from Hawass, but how do you know "a son of Sneferu was a priest of Ra"
You are probably referring to Rahotep, who may have been either a son of Huni or Snefru, but his title was simply 'Great Seer of Iunu' or perhaps, 'He who sees the Great One of Iunu' - no mention that he was "a priest of Ra".'
According to Quirke, "by the Middle Kingdom after 2000 BC, we find the title written with the plural 'Seers', indicating that at least from this date the term should be interpreted as 'Greatest of Seers'." Quirke also states that there were no High Priests in local cult centres before the Middle Kingdom.
Rahoteps title, 'Great Seer of Iunu' / 'He who sees the Great One of Iunu', is not plural, its singular, and its not known if his title means he was 'High Priest of the Sun at Iunu' at this early date, or was he simply the head of "....the men responsible for the observation of celestial movements, who charted the sun and stars in the sky in order to maintain the rhythm and rites of the kingly cult."
In an earlier post Michael Lehman wrote: "Five sources from the 4-5th Dynasties mention the 'Great Seer'. He was also 'Keeper of the Seal of the God of Ships', 'First Scribe of the Divine Book', 'Oldest One of the House of the Snake Stone' and ‘Follower of Horus’. The first text which tells us what the Great Seer was actually supposed to 'see' is preserved in the tomb of the 'Great Seer' Tjenti from Dynasty V: Tjenti was 'he who has been initiated into the secrets of the sky, he who sees the secret of the sky'. Tjenti's successor, the 'Great Seer' Kagemni, was 'he who knows the secrets of the words of Horus', 'he who knows the secrets of that which only one (person?) can see' and 'he who knows the secrets of the secret orders / tasks'."
No explicit mention of Ra here.
AFAIK, there are no explicit mentions of "a priest of Ra" from Dyn 4, the first mentions are from Dyn 5 - the era of sun-temples, which more or less rules out a massive, exclusive cult of Re at Giza.
There is however an 'offering table of the Sun' from Dyn 4, which together with other clues, is evidence the royal religious beliefs had an important solar aspect.
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