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May 8, 2024, 8:45 pm UTC    
September 06, 2007 01:54PM
Chris Tedder Wrote:
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>
>
>
> The tomb of Hemetra, who may have been a daughter
> of Khafra, has been dated to late Dyn 4.... early
> Dyn 5 or to later in Dyn 5, depending on how the
> evidence for dating the tomb is interpreted.


No, it has been excluded from Dynasty IV.



>
> However, one of the earliest secure attestations
> of the name of Osiris, is from the Dyn 5 tomb of
> Ptahshepses, who was born in the reign of
> Menkaura, Khufu's grandson. The architrave over
> his 'false door', "contains five lines of text
> consisting of standard invocation-formulae to
> Osiris and Anubis" (James 1961: 17 (682); Pl.
> XVII). The top line begins with: "An offering
> the king gives, an offering Osiris, the Great God,
> Lord of Maat gives" (Htp di niswt Htp di wsir nTr
> aA nb mAat).


Yes... Dynasty V again. This is the first, nearly certainly.



>
>
> Obviously, Osiris was an extremely important deity
> already in Dyn 5.



You mean by the END of Dynasty 5. There is no evidence before that on which to base such an assertion.


'Great God', 'Lord of Maat' is
> only applicable to the divine / royal realm - for
> example, the first king of Dyn 4, Snefru, was
> 'Lord of Maat', and 'Great God'.


Yes, this came out of the great Fusion of Dynasty V... nothing indicates it has any roots before that.


>
> As the name of Osiris is attested earlier than
> Unis, this means its not 300 years, but about 150
> - 210 years after Netjerikhet.

No, the first attestation is at most 50 years before Unas. 250 years are still "centuries".



Anthony

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.
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