Rich Wrote:
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> Hermione Wrote:
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> > It's a tale named after the city ruled over
> by
> > King Atlas, mortal son of Poseidon and Asia
> (or
> > Clymene).

> -- That's not what it is. Not at all. It's a
> "civilizer" myth.

Atlantis is not a "civilizer" myth (whatever that is). You might want to consider this view of Plato and Atlantis:

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The continuing industry of discovering Atlantis illustrates the dangers of reading Plato. For he is clearly using what has become a standard device of fiction—stressing the historicity of an event (and the discovery of hitherto unknown authorities) as an indication that what follows is fiction. The idea is that we should use the story to examine our ideas of government and power. We have missed the point if instead of thinking about these issues we go off exploring the sea bed. The continuing misunderstanding of Plato as historian here enables us to see why his distrust of imaginative writing is sometimes justified. (J. Annas, Plato: A Very Short Introduction (OUP 2003), p.42)

> Just like Plato's Minos. The
> term Atlantis is feminine. I missed the
> symbology. Atlantia is the "lady of Peace".

Unaccountably, Plato made no mention of this.

> > Why would Plato, a philosopher concerned
> about the
> > fate of contemporary Athens, have been
> interested
> > in Aahotep?

> -- She's Demeter. The Athenians called her
> Artemis. Her story would have been written in
> that temple in Athens. She's the greatest greek
> civilizer of them all.

> > You've found another source pre-dating Plato
> that
> > describes the city of Atlantis?

> -- Aeschylus tells us where she went. Canopus.
> Plato went there. He described what he saw.
>
> > Pharos, according to your website ... of
> which
> > this is a reconstruction. Doesn't look all
> that
> > much like Atlantis to me ...

> -- Strabo's description is a match.

A match for what? Strabo is describing Canopus, not Atlantis.
>
> > Besides, what leads you to believe that Plato
> was
> > not capable of inventing and describing the
> > details of an imaginary place?

> -- He didn't have to. He wrote what he saw.

Well, what did he see?

> > I can show you evidence of Greek
> > > contact. Argive contact.
> >
> > And ... ??
> -- And what?

Contact with WHOM? Many of your statements are very unclear.
>
> > If the mythological timeline you've
> constructed
> > has no relevance to our discussion, however,
> there
> > seems little point.

> -- We don't need the timeline to figure out when
> Aahotep died. Which is 900 years before Solon.
> The Parian Marble has the chronology of the
> Athenian Kings mentioned in the story. It
> overlaps.

The chronology of the Parian Marble is not a factual record.

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The literary content of the Chronicle was compiled from current authorities, general histories, annals of Attica (Atthids), handbooks of literature and catalogues of discoveries and inventions. The chronological scheme seems to have been the compiler’s contribution and the innovation which he wished to bring to public notice. He devised a true era, though a merely personal one, its terminal point being the archonship of Diognetos at Athens in the year corresponding to 264/3 BC. (Forsdyke, J. (1957) “Greece before Homer”, 51

> -- This is the Hall of Maat. A place I'm very
> proud to call home. A place where we weigh
> theories. Shoot down bad ones. Create New
> History together.

I think we all know what Hall of Ma'at is. We are not here to "create new history", but to examine the evidence for claims for alternative history.

> > besides, I'm growing tired of
> > asking questions and not receiving proper
> answers.
> -- Trying.

Then perhaps you should try harder.

> > Extraordinary claims require extraordinary
> proof:
> -- That's what I've done.

No, you haven't. All you've done is provide a series of confusing and near-garbled statements based - as far as I can make out - on a complete mis-perception, and understanding, of various myths. I suggest that it's time to reconsider your evidence and arguments.

Hermione
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