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May 20, 2024, 4:36 am UTC    
October 27, 2009 12:41PM
Rich Wrote:
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> Hermione Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> > I take it that you can't cite an Egyptian
> source
> > or text to support your argument that (a)
> the
> > Athenian kings were remembered in Egypt, and
> that
> > (b) Pythagoras was as well.

> -- I responded already on the Athenian Kings.

I requested an Egyptian source. You replied with:
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"110a...In this way, then, the names of the ancients, without their works, have been preserved. And for evidence of what I say I point to the statement of Solon, that the Egyptian priests, in describing the war of that period, mentioned most of those names--such as those of Cecrops and Erechtheus and Erichthonius and Erysichthon and most of the other names [110b] which are recorded of the various heroes before Theseus--and in like manner also the names of the women." -- Critias
Critias was not an Egyptian source, but a Greek one.

> -- On Pythagoras, it doesn't really matter. He
> learned from the Egyptian Priests.

So is there a contemporary Egyptian source that can confirm this point? A papyrus, or text, perhaps?

We already
> know what he knew. This is what he learned. The
> stuff in Plato's tale. That is what he knew.

That would be the "stuff" that Plato wrote, presumably ... and, Plato being Greek, that makes his writings Greek.

> > If such evidence had
> > been forthcoming, it would certainly have
> thrown a
> > whole new light on the tale of Atlantis, for
> which
> > Plato is apparently the only ancient source.

> -- There is a dozen sources.

Bear in mind: we're looking here for Egyptian sources, not Greek ones.

> Before and After.
> Lot's of information that's not in Plato's tale.
> Hellanicus, Herodotus, before. Plutarch,
> Diodorus, Solinus after. References to an Atlantic
> Sea

A similarity of name does not mean that such a sea was to be identified with Atlantis, though ...

, pre-dating Plato, by Euripedes and
> Steisichoros... which looks like the Aegean Sea.

> Io was the earlier Greek princess. Still
> investigating Aahotep for her. That mummy
> exists.

What I'm seeking here is an evidence-based discussion, not one that is based on claim and speculation.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2009 12:55PM by Hermione.
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