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May 2, 2024, 12:44 pm UTC    
May 08, 2008 07:32AM
MJ Thomas Wrote:

> Hello Lee,
>
> The 7” or so rise you see is actually an optical
> illusion.
> What appears to be a rise is actually the first
> 20” or so of the horizontal Subterranean Passage
> (SP) floor.
> The roof of this Passage starts 20” south of the
> end of the Descending Passage (DP) floor.
> Edgar’s feet are roughly vertically below the
> start of the Passage roof.
>
> The floor of the SP is above the end level of the
> DP but only by approximately 1”.
> This was established by Adam Rutherford in either
> the late 1950’s or early 1960s and is detailed in
> his 3 vol. Pyramidology 1966.
> Unfortunately, I don’t have a copy of Rutherford’s
> work to hand so I can’t give you a precise
> reference, but I have found a note I made back in
> the late 70s that mentions a detailed diagram in
> Volume 1.

MJ -

The Edgars specifically say that the Descending Passage "terminates in a flat end, cut square at the corners, and at right-angles to the incline of the passage" (p. 72). They add that "some of this flat end remains, forming a "margin several inches wide round the entrance" to the Subterranean Passage.

In refernce to their photo on p. 173, they say, "It will be noticed that the levelled cord stretched along the angle of the floor and the west wall of the Small Horizontal Passage (i.e., the Subterranean Horizontal Passage), crosses at a point several inches above the lower end of the vertical rod, which is erected in the bottom corner of the Descending Passage floor.

As I said, in the p. 170 photograph this lower margin looks to be about 7 to 8 inches in length. (I arrived at this by assuming that Edgar's left shoe - which is prominently visible in the photograph - had an actual length of 12 to 13 inches. This seemed to me a fairly reasonable point of reference, and the best one available.)

If there is a visual perspecive issue in the p. 170 photograph, then I should think that at worst the actual vertical height between the Horizontal floor and the Descending Passage floor would be the 7 or so inches multiplied by .89475, the cosine of Petrie's angle for the Descending Passage.

If, in the photograph on p. 173, one assumes that the "vertical rod" was 48 inches long, then the elevation is about 6.7 inches. Petrie gives the height of the Horizontal Passage as being 48 inches, and the rod in the photograph appears to be of a similar, if not greater, length.

I don't know how the Rutherford you cite arrived at his finding. It does not appear to at all be consistent with what the Edgars claim (and show) to have found. Having not been there myself, all I can point to is a statement made by the Edgars that "The walls and roof of the (Subterranean Horizontal) passage are fairly even and straight.....but the floor is worn torward its junction with the Descending Passage (p. 182). This wear is depicted somewhat in the drawing provided on p. 92 - this is a drawing made from the photograph given on p. 170.

Perhaps someone on this list has been to, or has photographed or even measured, this very junction and can clarify the issue.

Best,

Lee
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