December 20, 2007 07:12AM
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MJ Thomas Wrote:
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> In the thread Finally unravelled ... The Key to
> Giza, Scott wrote:
> “I am suggesting that where G2 is built would have
> been more practical from a logistical POV and have
> afforded Khufu more prestige than the NE corner of
> the plateau. Why didn't Khufu opt for the high,
> dominant central ground to construct the greatest
> of all the pyramids? It seems totally illogical to
> me that he should have chosen the NE corner.”
> (emphasis added by me)
>
> It occurs to me that the answer to this could be
> the death knell for the theory of a
> pan-generational building scheme at Giza.
>
> I suggest that there were at least three main
> reasons for Khufu selecting the site that he did
> for his pyramid.
> 1. The pre-existence of the ‘Grotto’ and the
> fissures in the bedrock below it (converted into a
> ventilation shaft for the workers excavating the
> Subterranean Chamber)
> 2. The large outcrop of rock that reduced the
> volume of blocks required (I have yet to do the
> maths on this to get a guesstimate of the volume
> saved).
> 3. Khufu was not expecting anybody – least of all
> a family member? – to build a pyramid “in the
> shadow of his own” (so to speak), and thus allowed
> practical considerations to over-ride any desire
> to build on higher but less easily adapted and
> developed ground.
>
> I see Khufu’s son and immediate successor,
> Djedfre, locating his pyramid at Abu Roash, some 5
> miles from Giza, as supporting my contention that
> his father was not expecting anybody to build a
> pyramid close to his.
>
> But what about Khafre and Menkaure opting for
> Giza?
> Well, I suspect that ego, jealousy, family
> politics and some kind of power struggle come into
> play here.
They choose Giza, imo, because, just like Khufu thought, a plateau plain and simple is very suitable to build such a giant tomb. Why not somewhere else, like Djedefra, most probably indeed his son and immediate successor ? According to some authors, Khafra was the brother and successor of Khufu, but it is more commonly accepted that Djedefra was Khufu's successor and Khafra was Djedefra's. If Khafra was Khufu's brother, well, it might be possible that he simply wanted to be buried next to his brother. I see Giza as a family-grave.
> I seriously doubt that Khafre and Menkaure were
> following a grand geometry-based scheme created
> before Khufu started building his pyramid.>
> All of which, in my somewhat amateur opinion,
> tends to undermine the hypothesis of a
> pan-generational scheme at Giza.
>
I fully agree with you !
Ronald.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/20/2007 07:13AM by Ronald.
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