RLH Wrote:
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> You were the first one to use 7 and 5.5
True, but I wasn't wanting answers typed up in unit fractions. Either or is fine with me.
> Well one would results in a pyramid 14 tall with a
> base of 22 and the other would results in a
> pyramid 11 tall with a base of 28. I think the
> king would notice and you would lose your job
> building pyramids.
Thank you for a shining example of my earlier statement of how people would get things confused. I never said build a pyramid with the 11 rise/14 run. I was specifically speaking about the shafts(some at least). And originally about your red rectangle you drew on the OP.
Go back and draw diagonal lines from all four corners and from the centerpoint out to all four corners you will have a run of 14 units and a rise/drop of 11 units.
Why you want it as a
> Seked
> > value is the pesky problem.
> >
>
> I like the pesky details sometimes it reveals a
> lot.
I said problems
not details. Thy are not automatically the same.
The problem falls along the lines of your earlier statement(this post) of two different size pyramids.
> > Where have you seen, in the AE cultural
> evidence,
> > an interior ratio, for any rise/run, referred
> to
> > as a Seked?
> >
>
> It could just as easy be a ramp of 22 rise and run
> of 28 it’s your internal/external definition that
> is causing the spin.
This doesn't even get close to an answer to my posted question not to mention a distracting(purposeful??) assumption.
> Yes I know about his plus/minus that is why I said
> Seked 5 + 1/2 is (close) to his preferred value.
And based on his measurements and what is known about their building techniques 5.5(5 + 1/2) is the most likely meant. Unless you can produce multiple pyramids with Seked using 3, or more, unit fractions.
I don't think he had a "preferred" measurement only gave an educated guess on what was known.
> First there is no casing up there so its all an
> educated guess, but not based on the Seked. It
> would be wrong for him to go looking for the
> preconceived idea that all pyramids were built
> using the Seked.
What were they built with then? Evidence for such also.
> I agree about the margin of error but the
> difference is still about 5 inches so like I said
> close to Petrie’s preferred value but not exact.
> He could have said the preferred value was 5771 ±
> 7 inches.
>
> If you extend the difference between 51.8666
> degrees and 51.8428 degrees to the size of the
> earth’s diameter the difference is huge.
And if you go the opposite direction(back towards the reality that would affect the AE's construction practices) it would have amounted to the thickness of a razorblade every foot.
5 inches = 6.7895247332686711930164888457808 digits.
So it would be 1 digit every 41.24 RC.Show me another construction(of this scale) that has that good of accuracy then we can talk about margins of error.
> > Absolutely. Perhaps you can use your
> expertise in
> > unit fractions to show how 22/28 equals 3 +
> 1/7?
> >
>
> ½ * 4 = 2
> ¼ * 4 = 1
> 1/28 * 4 = 1/7
>
> 2 + 1 + 1/7 = 3 + 1/7
So you agree my value is accurate while yours needs to be multiplied by 4.
> Typo > I think you mean ½ + ¼ + 1/28 not ½ +
> 1/7 + 1/28
That I did. Thanks!
> Just like some people see 22 digits as 5 ½ palms.
> Why? Because they change the 28 digits to 7 palms.
No because when talking about the pyramid constructions the Seked is referred to as palms not digits or inches or meters.
> I should have said 22, 5 ½ and 3 1/7 are the same
> length in a 28 unit system depending on how you
> look at it. My mistake!
Not alone on mistakes ^^^.
> > > 4 * 5.5 = 22
> > > 7 * 3.1428571 = 22
> > > 4 * 7 = 28
> >
> > My weight divided by sqrt of 1/3 the year
> length =
> > 22.023 can I say that fits within the 28
> unit
> > cubit as well and was intentional?
> >
>
> Sounds like spin.
So does all unevidenced speculation, theories, etc. I don't see 3 + 1/7 as a impossible ratio for the AE to find but true evidence has yet to be found to show it in the planning of the pyramid in question.
> > Now you remember you attempt at a Rhind
> papyrus
> > problem? remember the answer?
> > It was 8.9090909090909090909090909090909
> >
> > 28 / 3 + 1/7 =
> 8.9090909090909090909090909090909
> >
> > You know what
> 8.9090909090909090909090909090909/
> > 14 equals?
> >
> > It equals 32.47119229084848923132012643871
> > degrees.
> 32.412 degrees are not 51.8428 degrees. You can’t
> just tip the pyramid over 90 degrees and say they
> are the same Seked.
That's not the point. I am not claiming seked equalness. I have never said they were equal and where you got that idea I haven't a clue.
You have a carpenter's square with 7(14) palms on 1 side and 5.5(11) on the other side. You use this to measure your progress and accuracy.
All you have to do is turn the square over and you have the 11/14
ratio.
Regards,
Lobo-hotei
lobo
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