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RLH
August 11, 2010 05:47AM
lobo-hotei Wrote:
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> RLH Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > >Lobo wrote:
> > >
> > >It would be 8.909 or 8 + 10/11.
> > >
> > >
> > Very good now we are on the same track
> > (except the 10/11 is not unit fractions).
>
> And you did not ask for unit fractions.


That’s true I asked something like the RMP would so no reason to think the answer would be in unit fraction. But I understand all those pesky unit fraction would not make it easy to build to a seked of 8 + ½ + 1/3 + 1/22 + 133 as opposed to using something easy like seked 5 ½.


>
> > So 7 rise by 5.5 run is (Seked 5.5) and 5.5
> > rise by 7 run is (Seked 8 + ½ + 1/3 + 1/22 + 1/33)
>
> > This does establish the fact that if we are
> > talking about Sekeds then there are two
> > different Sekeds involved.
>
> No it doesn't.


I don’t see how Seked 5.5 and Seked 8 + ½ + 1/3 + 1/22 + 1/33 can be the same Seked.
Also I believe the Seked would apply to the slope of any rise/run.



>The Seked, to me at least, refers to
> the rise/run of the pyramid(external) not internal
> ratios. Of course we can refer to these as sekeds
> also but it would get confusing as heck when all
> these internal"sekeds" were being talked about in
> a discussion.
>
> Or it would simply be 11 palms high for
> every 14 palms across.
> Now where in the GP is that 11/14 or
> 14/11 ratio used again?
> >
> > Well I think the GP side inclination is close
> > to Seked 5 ½ but I’m not sure at this time
> > where Seked 8 + ½ + 1/3 + 1/22 + 1/33 is used!
> > Maybe you can help me out with that one?
>
> You think it is close? You're not sure?

Well using Petrie’s preferred value for the height of the GP 5776 inches then the slope would be 51.8666 degrees and the slope of seked 5.5 is 51.8428 so close but not exact.



> The Seked 8 +.... isn't used on the GP though the
> ratio of 11/14 is used with the shafts within the
> pyramid. This would give a 90 degree angle to the
> outside angle of the pyramid that was made with
> that Seked 5 + 1/2 you aren't too sure of.
>
>
> > I don’t remember saying anything about
> > proving Pi here but depending on how you look at it 22
> > units in a 28 unit system is 3 + 1/7. Wouldn’t you
> > agree?
>
> No. Your 22 units in a 28 units system would get
> you 11/14 which gets you 5.5/7 which gets you
> 0.78571428571428571428571428571429 which gets you
> 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/28.
>
> Not even close to 3 + 1/7.


Not even close! Are you sure? In this drawing 5 ½ and 3 1/7 are exactly the same length. Both are 22 units long.





>
>
> > >Your astounding 22 "7ths parts" and 28
> > >"7ths parts" could just as easily be seen as 5.5
> > >squares of 4 and 7 squares of 4.
> > > Regards,
> > >Lobo-hotei
> > >lobo
> >
> > Well yes I think I pointed that out.
>
> Nope. You just mentioned, in passing, that 28 can
> be divided by 1, 2, 4, 7. Of course I could have
> missed the post showing a graph of "4ths"
> overlayed on the pyramid showing the
> repetitiveness of the 5.5 and 7 values found in
> the Seked used to make the pyramid.
>
> The thread is titled "3 + 1/7" right?


Yes that’s because 22, 5 ½ and 3 1/7 are the same units of a 28 unit system.

4 * 5.5 = 22
7 * 3.1428571 = 22
4 * 7 = 28


>
>
> > If anything is astounding then it’s that the
> > designers could have put the exit points of
> > the KC shafts anywhere. I’m just hoping to point out
> > a logical reason for why they put them where they
> > did.
>
> Yeah they could have put them on a ratio oppposite
> the Seked used to build the outside of the pyramid
> so it hit at a 90 degree angle. Hard to
> understand.


The casing would be about 51.86 degrees so 90 - 51.86 = 38.14 degrees. The KC shafts are about 45 degrees and 32.47 degrees so if they wanted the shafts to hit the casing at 90 degrees wouldn’t the two shafts need to be about 38.14 degrees? Also wouldn’t that make for a shorter distance to the casing?


Regards,
RLH




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