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August 12, 2010 10:57AM
RLH Wrote:
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> That’s true I asked something like the RMP would
> so no reason to think the answer would be in unit
> fraction.

Glad you finally understood. Perhaps next time simply ask for it in unit fractions. When someone is lazy to the point of typing up seked 5 + 1/2 as 5.5 throughout their post then expect others to respond only in unit fractions is absurd.

But as for your request it is the Seked 5.5 on it's side as I have said already. Which to some who can't grasp it quickly:

Seked 5 + 1/2 = 14 rise/ 11 run.
seked 8 + ... = 11 rise/ 14 run.

Now we might have difficulty showing it as a long winded unit fraction value but how hard is it really to reverse the values?

> But I understand all those pesky unit
> fraction would not make it easy to build to a
> seked of 8 + ½ + 1/3 + 1/22 + 133 as opposed to
> using something easy like seked 5 ½.

Sure it is easy, as already stated, it is a ratio of 11 rise to 14 run. Why you want it as a Seked value is the pesky problem.



> I don’t see how Seked 5.5 and Seked 8 + ½ + 1/3
> + 1/22 + 1/33 can be the same Seked.
> Also I believe the Seked would apply to the slope
> of any rise/run.

Where have you seen, in the AE cultural evidence, an interior ratio, for any rise/run, referred to as a Seked?


> Well using Petrie’s preferred value for the height
> of the GP 5776 inches then the slope would be
> 51.8666 degrees and the slope of seked 5.5 is
> 51.8428 so close but not exact.

And how "Exact" do you think Petrie was when he measured the height of the GP? Do you honestly think it was measured to "Exactly" 5776 inches? Do you know what that plus/minus seven inches means?

The fact that you used the word "preferred" shows that you must know it wasn't an "Exact" measurement but an educated guess based on the known evidence. OF course deteriorated sides of the pyramid lend to exact measurements.

The difference you talk about above is within Petrie's margins of error.


> > No. Your 22 units in a 28 units system would
> get
> > you 11/14 which gets you 5.5/7 which gets
> you
> > 0.78571428571428571428571428571429 which gets
> you
> > 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/28.
> >
> > Not even close to 3 + 1/7.
>
>
> Not even close! Are you sure?

Absolutely. Perhaps you can use your expertise in unit fractions to show how 22/28 equals 3 + 1/7?

>In this drawing 5 ½
> and 3 1/7 are exactly the same length. Both are 22
> units long.

I never argued that they weren't the same length.

You get 3 + 1/7 when you change the grid units to 4.
You get 5 + 1/2 when you change the grid units to 7.

That doesn't change the fact that 22 units in a 28 unit does not equal 3 + 1/7. It equals 1/2 + 1/7 +1/28.

They all will be the same length as long as the original length used is consistant between all three.


> Yes that’s because 22, 5 ½ and 3 1/7 are the same
> units of a 28 unit system.

No they aren't.

28/22 = 1.2727272727272727272727272727273
28/5.5= 5.0909090909090909090909090909091
28/3+1/7=8.909090909090909090909090909091

22 of 28 units = 1.2727272727272727272727272727273
5.5 of 7 units = 1.2727272727272727272727272727273
3 + 1/7 of 4 units=1.2727272727272727272727272727273

Those are all equal. get it straight.


> 4 * 5.5 = 22
> 7 * 3.1428571 = 22
> 4 * 7 = 28

My weight divided by sqrt of 1/3 the year length = 22.023 can I say that fits within the 28 unit cubit as well and was intentional?

> > > If anything is astounding then it’s that
> the
> > > designers could have put the exit points
> of
> > > the KC shafts anywhere. I’m just hoping
> to point out
> > > a logical reason for why they put them
> where they
> > > did.
> >
> > Yeah they could have put them on a ratio
> oppposite
> > the Seked used to build the outside of the
> pyramid
> > so it hit at a 90 degree angle. Hard to
> > understand.
>
>
> The casing would be about 51.86 degrees so 90 -
> 51.86 = 38.14 degrees. The KC shafts are about 45
> degrees and 32.47 degrees so if they wanted the
> shafts to hit the casing at 90 degrees wouldn’t
> the two shafts need to be about 38.14 degrees?
> Also wouldn’t that make for a shorter distance to
> the casing?

Well I was referring to the Queen's shafts as we were talking about 11/14 ratios. But yes the King's shafts don't follow that ratio.

Now you remember you attempt at a Rhind papyrus problem? remember the answer?
It was 8.9090909090909090909090909090909

28 / 3 + 1/7 = 8.9090909090909090909090909090909

You know what 8.9090909090909090909090909090909/ 14 equals?

It equals 32.47119229084848923132012643871 degrees.


Any more number crunching games we can play?

Regards,
Lobo-hotei
lobo

Treat the earth well, It was not given to you by your parents, It was loaned to you by your children.
Native American Proverb
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