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May 13, 2024, 2:18 pm UTC    
February 17, 2008 06:59PM
Jammer Wrote:
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> Clive;
>
> With a 45 degree slope the ramp would reach 150 RC
> high when 150 RC long with 45 degree sides 150 rc
> wide at base (plus the witdth of ramp-road)...
>
> I would see it faced with semi dressed stone laid
> at a 52 degree to horizontal face to prevent
> "blowout", and filled with a friction adding fill,
> such as the chips n' chnks from the cutting and
> dressing areas. I think a layer of strong material
> to reinforce every meter or two could make a lot
> of sense, say maybe a reed-mat from the Nile? This
> would prevent slippage of fill side to side and up
> and down, and be stronger as compression grew.
>
> Take a lot of manpower to drag those blocks up
> that ramp?
> You betcha.
>
> So much so that as the layers rose the blocks
> might get smaller?
> Makes sense...
>
> Lets look at the pyramid, lo and behold, the
> blocks get smaller higher up...
> Coincidence? Mayhap...
>
> Now, what would you use the semi dressed stone you
> faced the ramp with after tear down?
> Possibly walls and sub structures aroung the great
> pyramids.
>
> And the fill?
> Make pretty good fill for the causeways and sub
> construct foundations, mightn't it?
>
> Is this the definitive answer?
> How the heck would I know, not having found a
> written record to prove it...
>
> But it at least explains the how-what-where part
> of your challenge.
>
> Jammer
>
> ps, This ramp would stay smaller in volume than
> the pyramid it built btw.
> How? The pyramid itself takes away from ramp
> volume as it climbs, supplying it with a solid
> foundation base.


45 degrees!!!

I have more than a little doubt that this angle is scalable even without a two ton stone in tow. At this angle it will require one ton of force just to stop it from sliding down hill. Even a 30 degree slope is untenable. 15 degrees is a tremendous obstacle.

The interstate highway system has almost no slopes over 6 degrees. There are a few up to 8 degrees that required special waivers. Trucks can barely climb these at all and they are far more powerful than even a large team of ancient Egyptians. With the proper gearing trucks would have little trouble, of course, but most aren't equipped for such grades.


Perhaps men could keep their balance and pull a rope DOWN a 35 degree grade while the rope is dragging a stone up the opposite side. winking smiley




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Man fears the pyramid, time fears man.
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