Clive Wrote:
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> You appear to miss the point.
> If Lehner insists on these pyramids built using
> long extended ramps then it is pointless reading
> whatever he has to say. He is basically telling
> the world that he knows nothing of civil
> engineering and absolutely ignorant of basic
> construction techniques.
>
>
> I repeat:
> Ramps were never built to the apex of these tall
> structures...it doesn't work, it's the "most"
> (please understand the significance of the word
> "most") inefficient means of raising stones.
> Do you understand that every stone set in place
> above the 1/3rd height requires the placing of
> more ramp stone than structure stone? And...it's
> worse as you venture higher with your
> building....plus...the ramp must be removed when
> the pyramid is finished.
>
> Try a little mathematics this weekend and report
> back to me with your findings.
Besides any other consideration, I don't think that I really much care for your tone ...
> Here is the scenario:
>
> You are building G1 and have reached the 100th
> course level...150 Rc above base level.
> Base is 440Rc wide and the angle is a presumed
> 51.8+ degrees.
> I need the following info from you to confirm your
> method employed.
> 1) You must choose the angle of the ramp.
> 2) You must set the width of the ramp at startup
> and at the 150Rc level.
> 3) You must select what material to use for the
> ramp.
> 4) You must also decide where this material is to
> be disposed.
>
> The question is:
> How much material is required to raise your ramp
> to the height of the next level compared to the
> amount of stone blocks set at that level?
>
> When complete, I want you to visit this topic
>
> Now you may realize that the AE were intelligent
> individuals…not thoughtless haphazard “thumb-in
> –the-air” surveyors they are portrayed to be.
(Who portrayed them in that way?)
There are numerous different proposals for how the pyramids were built. If you look in Lehner’s “Complete Pyramids”, I’m sure you’ll find pictures of different types of ramps, which all have pros and cons. I don’t know whether Lehner has a particular favourite amongst these, although, like any good scholar, I suspect that over time he’s changed his views.
However, that’s totally irrelevant to the subject: i.e., the reason for the location of the subsidiary pyramids.
Whatever method you use for piling the stones up, you still have to get them up to the plateau. Even people who don't agree with the theory that ramps were used for piling the stones up accept that there were supply ramps to get the stone to the base of the pyramid. The south side was the only option. See
this, which gives all the necessary information.
So, going back to the original question:
The subsidiary pyramids were built where they were because immediately to the north was Khufu’s causeway.
They couldn’t be built to the south, as that was the location of the supply ramp to get the stone up.
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