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October 02, 2001 01:54PM

<HTML>ISHMAEL,

> So let me get this straight....when you thought Krupp was
> advocating an accurate representation, you said that a mirror
> image was wrong. Now that you realize the Krupp is advocating
> a mirror image, you think that an accurate representation is
> wrong.

You're misrepresenting what I've said. Krupp states that the star shafts lock the orientation of the GP (and by consequence all the pyramids at Giza) - I agree with that. If you want to argue for an upside down orientation (like Bauval) then you cannot use the star shafts to support your assumption - that is inconsistency.

> However, I maintain that because a mirror image is a
> *reversal* of the stars that your original intuition is
> correct - a mirror image is counter-intuitive as a means of
> modeling the stars (or anything else for that matter)
> accuratly.

It has nothing to do with whether the image is mirrored or upside down - as I state above it's about the inconsistency in Bauvals argument.

> If the Egyptians wished to model the stars on the ground,
> they would have done so - and not mirror them as Krupp
> advocates. There is only ONE way to accurately model the
> stars: and that method is congruent with the pattern we see
> at Giza.

Krupp only points out an inconsistency in the original argument proposed by Bauval which happens to invalidate it. That remains the problem and you have still yet to indicate that you even understand that point - if you could then you wouldn't be arguing with me.

> -------
> We're not aligning pyramids any more though are we?
> -------
>
> Well actually.....yes we are. :-)

I don't see how you can be when the discrepancy between the correlation is as bad as <a href=""></a>
<a href="[www.ianlawton.com];

> I got sidetracked by the Mortuary Temples because they
> practically jumped out of the sand at me the match appeared
> so obvious - but ultimately, I could not support an alignment
> based on those structures. I can support one based on the
> Pyramids. Most definitely.

But it is presumably not a correlation using the central point of each pyramid.

> The alignment is exact with only a three foot margin of
> error.

To what are you claiming an accuracy of +/- 3ft with?

As to whether this will *prove* intent on the part of
> the AEs I believe it will - but I will rely upon expert
> opinion to evaluate that matter. My contribution ends at the
> point of establishing the exactitude of the correlation.

As Stephen pointed out on another thread correlation and causation are 2 distinct entities. Even statistical relationships that approach zero can still be due to chance.

> -----------
> Is the match perfect at Abusir too?
> -----------
>
> I have yet to examine that case. However, such an alignment
> appears impossible to support statistically -- because there
> are only two pyramids at that location (if I understand
> correctly).

Are you sure your maths is good as last time I checked there were at least 4 :-). Check with Lehner's <i>the complete pyramids</i> or <a href=""></a>
<a href="[members.tripod.de] here</a> (there are also several unfinished pyramids at the site that you may want to consider).

> -----------
> I'm just waiting for a convincing argument from you and
> nothing less than that.
> -----------
>
> Of course. And I respect that. I am struggling to finish this
> paper as quickly as I can.

I'm not holding you up am I? :-)

Cheers,

Duncan</HTML>

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Subject	Author	Posted
For Duncan RE Coincidence	sandy	September 29, 2001 06:21PM
Re: Sorry	sandy	September 29, 2001 06:41PM
Re: Sorry	Anthony	September 30, 2001 05:51AM
Re: Sorry	Stephen Tonkin	September 30, 2001 07:30AM
Re: Sorry	Anthony	September 30, 2001 07:50AM
Re: Sorry	Stephen Tonkin	September 30, 2001 11:05AM
Re: Sorry	sandy	September 30, 2001 08:19AM
Re: Sorry	Stephen Tonkin	September 30, 2001 11:07AM
Technically possible...	Anthony	September 30, 2001 05:12PM
Re: Technically possible...	Greg Reeder	September 30, 2001 06:00PM
Yep.... see this	Katherine Reece	September 30, 2001 07:55PM
Re: Technically possible...	Brad	September 30, 2001 09:11PM
Re: Technically possible...	Stephen Tonkin	September 30, 2001 11:30PM
Two answers....	Anthony	October 01, 2001 04:25PM
Long accurate alignments and TRASH	Stephen Tonkin	October 02, 2001 05:10AM
TRASH is RIGHT!	Anthony	October 02, 2001 10:32AM
Re: TRASH is trash!	Stephen Tonkin	October 02, 2001 06:59PM
Re: TRASH is trash!	Anthony	October 03, 2001 07:07AM
Re: TRASH is trash!	Stephen Tonkin	October 03, 2001 11:20AM
Re: Sorry	John	September 30, 2001 06:12AM
Re: Sorry	Anthony	September 30, 2001 06:45AM
A Hint	ISHMAEL	September 30, 2001 01:26PM
Re: A Hint	John	September 30, 2001 02:00PM
No, he won't elaborate...	Anthony	September 30, 2001 05:16PM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 04:19AM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 06:57AM
Statistical Analysis and probability	Claire	October 01, 2001 07:20AM
Re: Statistical Analysis and probability	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 09:10AM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 07:22AM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 09:21AM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 09:40AM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 10:24AM
Rotating the Axis	Anthony	October 01, 2001 10:26AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 11:50AM
Call me stupid...	Anthony	October 01, 2001 12:47PM
Re: Call me stupid...	Claire	October 01, 2001 01:16PM
Re: Call me stupid...	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 01:49PM
Re: Call me stupid...	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 03:55PM
Re: Call me stupid...	ISHMAEL	October 02, 2001 09:10AM
Re: Call me stupid...	Anonymous User	October 02, 2001 10:29AM
Re: Call me stupid...	ISHMAEL	October 02, 2001 12:56PM
ISHMAEL!!!!!!	Anthony	October 02, 2001 01:45PM
Re: ISHMAEL!!!!!!	ISHMAEL	October 02, 2001 02:19PM
Re: ISHMAEL!!!!!!	Anthony	October 02, 2001 02:21PM
Re: Call me stupid...	Anonymous User	October 02, 2001 01:54PM
Re: Call me stupid...	ISHMAEL	October 02, 2001 02:28PM
Re: Call me stupid...	Anonymous User	October 03, 2001 08:29AM
Re: Call me stupid...	Stephen Tonkin	October 03, 2001 11:06AM
Re: Call me stupid...	ISHMAEL	October 03, 2001 11:12AM
Re: Call me stupid...	Claire	October 02, 2001 03:27PM
Re: Call me stupid...	Anonymous User	October 03, 2001 08:18AM
Don't Call the AE's Stupid :-)	ISHMAEL	October 03, 2001 11:17AM
Re: Call me stupid...	Anthony	October 01, 2001 01:51PM
Re: Call me stupid...	Claire	October 01, 2001 01:59PM
Call you Smart!	Anthony	October 01, 2001 02:15PM
Anthony	Claire	October 01, 2001 02:19PM
Re: Anthony	Anthony	October 01, 2001 02:25PM
Re: Anthony	Claire	October 01, 2001 02:27PM
Re: Call me stupid...	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 03:42PM
Yo, Duncan!	Anthony	October 02, 2001 01:50PM
Re: Yo, Duncan!	Anonymous User	October 02, 2001 02:28PM
East is east and West is west.	ISHMAEL	October 02, 2001 02:45PM
Guys...	Anthony	October 02, 2001 03:19PM
Re: Guys...	Anonymous User	October 02, 2001 03:34PM
Okay...Uh....no.	Anthony	October 02, 2001 04:55PM
Re: Okay...Uh....no.	Anonymous User	October 03, 2001 08:49AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 01:30PM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 04:10PM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Stephen Tonkin	October 02, 2001 01:51AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Claire	October 02, 2001 05:03AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Stephen Tonkin	October 02, 2001 06:08AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Anonymous User	October 02, 2001 06:19AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Stephen Tonkin	October 02, 2001 09:14AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Anonymous User	October 02, 2001 03:03PM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Dave Moore	October 05, 2001 03:17AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Stephen Tonkin	October 05, 2001 05:50AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Dave Moore	October 05, 2001 09:08AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	Stephen Tonkin	October 05, 2001 11:39AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	ISHMAEL	October 02, 2001 09:14AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	sandy	October 02, 2001 09:51AM
Re: Rotating the Axis	ISHMAEL	October 02, 2001 01:05PM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	Stephen Tonkin	October 01, 2001 01:40PM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 01:50PM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 10:08AM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 11:21AM
Re: No, he won't elaborate...	Stephen Tonkin	October 01, 2001 01:42PM
Re: Sorry	John	September 30, 2001 06:57AM
Re: Sorry	Anthony	September 30, 2001 07:52AM
Re: Sorry	Katherine Reece	September 30, 2001 08:12AM
Re: For Duncan RE Coincidence	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 04:44AM
Re: For Duncan RE Coincidence	Stephen Tonkin	October 01, 2001 05:20AM
Re: For Duncan RE Coincidence	Anonymous User	October 01, 2001 07:08AM
Re: For Duncan RE Coincidence	Stephen Tonkin	October 01, 2001 01:47PM
Re: For Duncan RE Coincidence	sandy	October 01, 2001 05:25AM
Re: For Duncan RE Coincidence	ISHMAEL	October 01, 2001 07:05AM

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