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August 22, 2001 02:48PM
<HTML>I think what I meant was that the NY thing is obviously unintentional because there would be no motivation to mirror Leo.

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That's not the problem. Evidence from other sources to support intent is just that: supporting evidence. But it cannot provide direct evidence. Only the statistical relationship provides direct evidence. ergo. Is there a correlation or not?

The problem with the NY thing has nothing to do with documented intent upon the disigners - and everything to do with statistical probabilities. The odds of finding an alignment with leo in NY are precisely 100%!!!!!

100%!!!!

The same goes for any constelation if your rules are that any building may be selected so long as it falls beneath the star.

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In this case I think that Ishmael would need to show intent, rather than rely on 'statisical analysis' - in my view, that would be meaningless without the Orion connection - if you see what I mean?
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That's not the case.

Statistical Analysis can achieve results where by a given phenomena is determined so unlikely to have emerged by chance that its designed appearance is "statistically proven." Though probabilities of 100% are unachievable, supporting evidence provides little in the way of narrowing the margin once this threshold is passed (it often has a psychological impact however, for people who subscribe to the "lies, damned lies and statistics" school of thought).

The original OCT relies upon a loose correlation between sky and ground, so statistically, there was a lot more room for chance to produce the observed phenomena. When statistical evidence is weak, supporting evidence increases in value.

The modified, mortuary-temple OCT (mt-OCT) considerably narrows the window in which chance may opperate. How small the opening is, is what I want to determine. If the threshhold is small enough, no supporting evidence is required (which is a tough pill for some people to swallow) because the phenomena achieves a greater degree of reliability than any supporting evidence might lend to it.

Regardless, I believe that most of Bauval's work with the Orion/Osirus/Pyramid connectivity of meaning will be applicable to the MTOCT. Mine is a very slight modification of his work!

But that is not my debate. The meaning of the alignment is for Acheologists and Egyptologists to determine. I'm only interested in proving statistically that it exists and that it exists by design.

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....It's like showing a relationship between catching AIDs and owning TV's for example. You might be able to demonstrate a correlation - but it would be meaningless in the absense of any causal relationship between AIDS and TV ownership.
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That's not the case.

It depends on what you are trying to prove.

If <i>all</i> you are trying to prove is that a relationship exists between the two, <i>all you need is statistical evidence of sufficient strength.</i> The <i>nature</i> of the relationship, however, is another kettle of fish alltogether and with regard to the mt-OCT, its a question I will continue to avoid.

All I need to show is that a relationship exists and that the odds against its having emerged due to chance are astronomical. For that, all I need is statistical evidence producing probabilities.

However....I am not even sure is such an experimental proceedure can be run on a phenomena such as this - where the pattern has already been found. I'm unsure of therules by which such analysis are conducted but I hope to educate myself.

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I don't think it would help Ishmael's case in the absense of this Orion/Osiris thing ~lol~
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I don't need Osirus to prove anything. Just give me three temples and the stars. What the correlation means is secondary. That it exists can (and <i>ideally</i> should be) established independently of conjectures regarding its purpose.

If Petrie was the first to realize the stellar correlation, and he knew nothing of the connection between Orion and Osirus, he might well infer such a connection from the evidence of his eyes. The correllation is <i>prima face</i>.

ISHMAEL</HTML>
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Two Thesies

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Statistical Analysis

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Double standard?

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