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May 19, 2024, 11:51 am UTC    
January 25, 2006 04:12PM
So you made a extreme statement about the Characters in the Bible being to support a Creationsit account.

So rather than admit the possibility of this being possibly extreme we have.

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For example, I think we would all agree that "God" (Lord, El, Elohim, Jesus) is the main topic of the bible. So, in Genesis we have God creating the earth, humans, etc. The way God is described in the bible is also used THROUGHOUT the Bible. So, in a passage that seems to telling some mundane story, might (probability) actually be CONTINUING to describe the creator (God) over and over and over and over again.

So I suppose the descriptionm of the holiness code regarding the "uncleanliness" of menstrating women is actually describing "God"? Or how about the Day of Nicior in I Maccabes? I could go on very easily. Why not just admit that the Bible is not just describitions of "God".

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When I say "creation story", I don't mean an acute (Genesis 1) "creation event" but rather the IDENTITY of the purported creator (using symbolism) is used over and over and over in the bible specifically whenever the "Lord" is nearby (in the text/story/context).

YAWN!

OH and all your quotes prove zero. I could of course go through the Bible and have quote after quote describing people doing mundane things. But given your loose defintion of "creation" story, which verges on non-fasifiability no doubt its all "creation" stories. I have no desire to waste my time.

Oh and virtually none of the quotes seem to have anything to do with "creation", except in your near non-fasifiable definition.

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It's not preconceived. How could ANYONE guess or even think the whole of the bible (i.e. the identity of God) would be spread THROUGHOUT the bible (rather than Genesis or the more obvious parts)?

Your use of quotes illustrates your preconception along with your catagorical statements. The way you define "creation" makes it quite clear that the mere mention of God would "support" your fantasy. Obviously someone guessed otherwise why are you saying it?

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This symbolic interpretation is rigid and consists of elements/attributes that follow a distinct pattern.

I agree with the "rigid", although I think dogmatic and simple minded are more accurate.

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Understood. I'm saying that even literalist interpretations of the Exodus will reveal nothing useful.

Than why did you you set up the strawman of 'literalism"?

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The only way you can provide "evidence" of said symbolism is from circumstantial evidence.

Translated fantasize and hallucinate. Please provide evidence that such esoteric symbolic coding was done at all.


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Use crosswalk (bible search) and see for yourself.

Giggle, Giggle. Such touching innocence!

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Not when they're talking of "God". That's the amazing part. When someone here posted [www.earlychristianwritings.com] which I'd never seen before, I fully expected to see the SAME imagery found in the bible. Lo and behold, see my sig. line as ONE example amongst many different writings.

Ah the true believer mindset. And so innocent! I suppose you havn't heard of efforts to combine Greek philosophical beliefs with the Bible. Oh since you fully expected to find it of course you did. "I've found what I'm looking for".

YAWN!!

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King Tutankhamen, Queen Ankhesenamen and Moses

Andrew Earl Singer January 23, 2006 08:25AM

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Ritva Kurittu January 23, 2006 08:35AM

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Amanda R January 23, 2006 10:05AM

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Ritva Kurittu January 23, 2006 10:27AM

like searching for ...

Warwick L Nixon January 23, 2006 10:43AM

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Ritva Kurittu January 23, 2006 11:06AM

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Gerd VDC January 23, 2006 10:39AM

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Andrew Earl Singer January 23, 2006 07:44PM

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Gerd VDC January 24, 2006 03:00AM

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Andrew Earl Singer January 24, 2006 08:17AM

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Pete Clarke January 24, 2006 08:39AM

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Gerd VDC January 24, 2006 09:38AM

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Anthony January 24, 2006 11:46AM

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Anthony January 24, 2006 08:54AM

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Anthony January 23, 2006 11:48AM

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Greg Reeder January 23, 2006 11:12AM

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Ritva Kurittu January 23, 2006 11:31AM

virtually all biblical characters

JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 11:52AM

Re: virtually all biblical characters

Roxana January 23, 2006 12:32PM

it's LOGICAL

JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 12:55PM

Re: it's LOGICAL

Roxana January 23, 2006 01:50PM

Re: it's LOGICAL

JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 02:53PM

Re: it's LOGICAL

Roxana January 23, 2006 03:36PM

are you sure??

JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 03:49PM

Re: are you sure??

Damian Walter January 23, 2006 04:34PM

Re: are you sure??

JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 04:39PM

Re: are you sure??

Damian Walter January 24, 2006 04:49AM

Re: are you sure??

Roxana January 24, 2006 12:43PM

Re: are you sure??

Damian Walter January 24, 2006 02:46PM

Waters are PRIMARY to the creation event

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 02:51PM

further

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 02:57PM

Re: are you sure??

Damian Walter January 24, 2006 03:19PM

Re: are you sure??

Warwick L Nixon January 24, 2006 12:51PM

Re: are you sure??

Lee January 24, 2006 01:28PM

Re: are you sure??

Warwick L Nixon January 24, 2006 01:43PM

Re: are you sure??

Lee January 24, 2006 02:13PM

Re: are you sure??

Roxana January 24, 2006 03:27PM

Re: are you sure??

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 03:39PM

Re: are you sure??

Lee January 25, 2006 10:56AM

Re: are you sure??

Roxana January 25, 2006 03:13PM

no implying of any kind

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 02:36PM

Re: no implying of any kind

Warwick L Nixon January 24, 2006 02:49PM

Re: no implying of any kind

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 02:54PM

Re: no implying of any kind

Warwick L Nixon January 24, 2006 03:03PM

Re: it's LOGICAL

Damian Walter January 23, 2006 01:54PM

Re: it's LOGICAL

JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 03:04PM

Re: it's LOGICAL

Damian Walter January 23, 2006 04:19PM

Re: it's LOGICAL

JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 04:31PM

Re: it's LOGICAL

Roxana January 23, 2006 03:32PM

Remember, the REASON for religion/religious writings

JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 03:50PM

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Damian Walter January 23, 2006 04:24PM

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JimLewandowski January 23, 2006 04:35PM

Re: Remember, the REASON for religion/religious writings

Roxana January 24, 2006 12:46PM

Re: Remember, the REASON for religion/religious writings

Warwick L Nixon January 24, 2006 12:52PM

Re: Remember, the REASON for religion/religious writings

Roxana January 24, 2006 03:48PM

We're dealing with probabilities, not possibilities

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 02:49PM

Re: We're dealing with probabilities, not possibilities

Damian Walter January 24, 2006 03:26PM

I have no opinion nor interest in what you've posted

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 03:44PM

LOL! n/t

Damian Walter January 24, 2006 03:49PM

Your point doesn't address the original subject

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 03:58PM

What can I say?

Damian Walter January 24, 2006 04:04PM

example biblical text

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 04:14PM

Question on this biblical text

Anthony January 24, 2006 04:17PM

It doesn't matter

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 06:19PM

Re: It doesn't matter

Anthony January 24, 2006 09:34PM

Re: It doesn't matter

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 11:00PM

Re: It doesn't matter

Roxana Cooper January 25, 2006 10:57AM

Re: It doesn't matter

Warwick L Nixon January 25, 2006 11:12AM

you still seem to be evading the issue of the identity of God

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 11:21AM

Re: you still seem to be evading the issue of the identity of God

Warwick L Nixon January 25, 2006 11:35AM

Re: you still seem to be evading the issue of the identity of God

Roxana January 25, 2006 12:43PM

Re: you still seem to be evading the issue of the identity of God

John Wall January 25, 2006 01:12PM

From experience, using the term exploded planet

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 03:22PM

Re: you still seem to be evading the issue of the identity of God

Tommi Huhtamaki January 25, 2006 01:15PM

Pffffft....

Anthony January 25, 2006 01:24PM

Re: Pffffft....

Tommi Huhtamaki January 25, 2006 01:34PM

Jerry Goldsmith

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 01:54PM

Re: Question on this biblical text

Lee January 26, 2006 02:59PM

Re: I have no opinion nor interest in what you've posted

Roxana January 24, 2006 03:50PM

the facts are the least important elements of the book

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 12:18AM

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lobo-hotei January 25, 2006 12:52AM

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JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 01:17AM

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lobo-hotei January 25, 2006 01:55AM

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Roxana Cooper January 25, 2006 11:11AM

Re: the facts are the least important elements of the book

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 11:27AM

Re: the facts are the least important elements of the book

Warwick L Nixon January 25, 2006 11:32AM

and I've been 100% honest about that

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 01:28PM

Re: and I've been 100% honest about that

Warwick L Nixon January 25, 2006 01:40PM

I have no interest in fiction

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 01:56PM

Re: the facts are the least important elements of the book

lobo-hotei January 25, 2006 11:49AM

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Roxana January 25, 2006 12:50PM

Re: the facts are the least important elements of the book

lobo-hotei January 25, 2006 01:02PM

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Roxana January 25, 2006 03:21PM

I'm so bad at directions I have to orient the map

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 03:32PM

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JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 01:33PM

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Roxana January 25, 2006 12:47PM

You're getting closer

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 03:31PM

Re: virtually all biblical characters

Pacal January 24, 2006 05:54PM

defining creation story

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 08:24PM

Re: defining creation story

Pacal January 25, 2006 04:12PM

Re: defining creation story

JimLewandowski January 25, 2006 04:26PM

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Pacal January 26, 2006 07:42PM

Re: King Tutankhamen, Queen Ankhesenamen and Moses

Roxana January 23, 2006 12:28PM

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Andrew Earl Singer January 23, 2006 03:56PM

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John Wall January 23, 2006 04:13PM

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Ritva Kurittu January 23, 2006 04:17PM

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Rick B January 23, 2006 11:12PM

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Marduk January 24, 2006 12:41AM

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Damian Walter January 24, 2006 08:11AM

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Marduk January 24, 2006 08:35AM

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John Wall January 24, 2006 08:37AM

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Marduk January 24, 2006 10:23AM

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John Wall January 24, 2006 12:18PM

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Marduk January 24, 2006 12:34PM

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Damian Walter January 24, 2006 09:32AM

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Moderator Note

Katherine Reece January 24, 2006 11:35AM

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Marduk January 24, 2006 12:37PM

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Damian Walter January 24, 2006 12:42PM

touche'

Warwick L Nixon January 24, 2006 12:45PM

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Marduk January 24, 2006 12:53PM

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Warwick L Nixon January 24, 2006 12:57PM

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Marduk January 24, 2006 01:03PM

Mod note~~

lobo-hotei January 24, 2006 01:11PM

Re: Mod note~~

Marduk January 24, 2006 01:31PM

Correct. Literalism seems to have paid virtually NO

JimLewandowski January 24, 2006 10:06AM

Re: Correct. Literalism seems to have paid virtually NO

Pacal January 29, 2006 06:53PM

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Hermione January 24, 2006 11:44AM

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