JimLewandowski Wrote:
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> > Hmmmm a small guy reached into his ammo pouch
> and
> > took out a bullet
>
> ***
> Stone.

bullet - gun
stone- sling
*ammo- weapon* get it?



> and loaded his weapon(sling). He
> > shot the the big attacker in the head killing
> him
> > instantly.
>
> ***
> It says "the stone sunk in his forehead". Think
> about it. Two pieces of symbolism have been
> provided.

Thought about it the first time. Stone in forehead - bullet in head - ammo in head. All equal dead!


> The big guy fall down and go BOOM!!!
> > I don't see much symbolism
>
> ***
> Precisely my point. What is the reason for this?

Because it was a descriptive statement of what happened when Goliath got killed by a stone from a sling penetrating his forehead.

> Can you provide me an example of anything in the
> bible that you DO think is symbolic?

Find me a passage that states people will try to symbolise a news article over a big dumb guy bringing a knife to a gun fight and I will have one.


> there just an accurate
> > description of what happens when someone
> gets
> > killed instantly and "falls upon his face on
> the
> > ground" due to not being alive to break his
> fall
> > with his hands/arms.
>
> ***
> Why would he fall face first?

Physics?

Isn't it possible
> that he would crumple to the ground rather than
> "fall"?

Are you saying it is impossible to "fall" rather then crumple?

And, the word EARTH is used, not ground.
> Think about it.

And what ground do you walk on if not earth? What if they had said soil, sand, mud, dirt, clay, or perhaps"that brown stuff that we walk over and grass and trees grow in" instead?

Perhaps Earth was a word the author liked using, similar to IMHO for some posters. Perhaps "earth" in his original language took less symbols to spell out vs. all the other words mentioned above.
Ex. Fahrvergnügen = VW around here. Which would you want to write a few hundred times?


> > Then all the newspaper stories I read where
> > someone gets knocked out in a fight, or gets
> shot
> > dead, and "falls flat out" or "falls face
> first
> > into the ground" are speaking of the identity
> of
> > God/Jesus? Gotcha!
>
> ***
> The bible isn't a newspaper (i.e. it's not
> journalism but BELIEFS). I thought that much
> would be obvious.

Try researching journalism and read the above statement again, lol.
The bible is a conglomeration of different stories much like a newspaper. You will have romance, war, poverty, violence in the streets, fishing stories, weather reports, comics, sci-fi, and money reports.


> >
> > It explains the dude, or dude-ette, is a
> penitent
> > worshipper and wants to get down on the
> ground
> > quick before they are "smitten" by their
> vengeful
> > god!
>
> ***
> They never kneel or lay down. It's always "fell
> on their face".

You kneel to pray. You lay down for a nap. You fall flat on your face, while begging for mercy, if you have sinned and think that God has come to punish you. You don't continue watering the oxen or drinking your beer and tell God to wait until you are thru. At least in the bible they didn't.


> ***
> Why would it be important to FURTHER describe the
> mountain when EVERYONE knows what a mountain looks
> like (i.e. or the story wouldn't be able to relate
> to the intended audience/reader)? The bible is
> littered (pun intended) with references to
> rocks/stones/hail/hailstones normally in
> conjunction with God being nearby or present.

You would think so wouldn'tcha? Here in OKlahoma they have Mount Scott. I call it a molehill. It would be, at best, a foothill(stretching it alot). People I know have seen cotton in lots of things and read about it in books, yet take them out to a 1000 acres of cotton plants and they have no clue what it is growing there.
Some people need the help in descriptive literature to see the picture.


> >
> > I've seen better symbolism in
> Winnie-the-Pooh
> > books!
>
> ***
> Maybe you don't understand symbolism? Or, maybe
> you don't think it is valid (evidence) to show the
> consistency of the use of the terms
> rock/stone/hail/hailstone in the bible?
>

Are you saying you have never seen symbolism in Winnie the Pooh books? And you are questioning my ability to see symbolism.

Until you can put together a peer reviewed, and accepted, paper proving all these are meant in the same way then No I don't see the consistency, only belief!

Regards,
Lobo-hotei
lobo

Treat the earth well, It was not given to you by your parents, It was loaned to you by your children.
Native American Proverb