December 14, 2004 03:07PM
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sdelaney Wrote:
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> I think your jump from evangelism to cultural
> genocide is a little too far.
Evangelism may not be the right word. Officially, the position of the church for a long time has been that Christ will not come again until everyone believes. That is the basis for the evangelism, the desire to convert. I agree that power and greed became involved, but I come back to the worldview of the church.
In 1494, Pope Alexander VI divided all non-Christian lands on earth between Spain and Portugal. The contries hammered out more details in the Treaty of Tordesillas. To me, this shows intent. That people living in all those non-Christian countries were citizens of their own lands, with rights to govern themselves and keep their own religious traditions was not even considered.
> I agree that Europeans did not develop all of the
> technology but the dynamics of the European
> civilization did result in a technological
> advantage (but that's not your point I realize).
Part of the "dynamics" is the worldview. Gunpowder can be used to make beauriful fireworks or to control other people.
> To your point, I agree that it was not the
> technology that "caused" the conquest. But it was
> the technology that made it possible. You suggest
> it was the worldview of the conquerors that was
> the cause and I assume you believe that worldview
> was the result of evangelism. I will agree that
> evangelism influenced that worldview, but I think
> power and greed were the more important elements.
I don't think power and greed were the more important elements, they just became entwined with the plan to Christianize the world.
> Conquering other people's was not something unique
> in history to christian europeans either. Within
> the limitations of the technologies of the time,
> millions have died and many cultures have been
> destroyed or warped throughout our wonderful human
> history, and long before the first pope.
I agree with you that conquering other people is not unique to Christian Europeans. But the extent of genocide and cultural genocide that came out of Christian Europe around 500 years ago was unique at that time.
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