<HTML>PART 4: The Famine Stele; More On Solving the Riddles; The Klemms Again (Scientific Literature)
The Famine Stele
Frank Doernenburg reminds me, “You still dindn't answer my question about where on the Famina-stela I can find something about building a pyramid or processing stone.”
Margaret Morris replies: I preface my response by pointing out that Frank Doernenburg poses many
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Margaret Morris
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<HTML>PART 2: The Quarries; Scientific Literature
The Quarries
Frank Doernenburg adds, “And to the jumbled shells: ANYONE can see those with the naked eye in the southern quarries at Kaphere. I tried to make a photo last week, unfortunately my Autofocus was of the opinion I wanted something else sharp.”
Margaret Morris replies: To make his statement, Frank Doernenburg ignores the overall
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Margaret Morris
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<HTML>PART 2: The Quarries; Scientific Literature
The Quarries
Frank Doernenburg adds, “And to the jumbled shells: ANYONE can see those with the naked eye in the southern quarries at Kaphere. I tried to make a photo last week, unfortunately my Autofocus was of the opinion I wanted something else sharp.”
Margaret Morris replies: To make his statement, Frank Doernenburg ignores the overall
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Margaret Morris
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<HTML>Hi Anthony,
Please accept an observation from a non-expert... your Inuit example triggered something I read in Davidovits' book... and "experts" may have already refuted this as a non-fact, but I'll mention it just in case. According to his version of the AEs' knowledge in alchemy, nature, etc., they were so well versed on the material world around them that
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Litz
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<HTML>Margaret Morris is quite correct in her assertions. I re-invented ancient history to accommodate the technology that I speculated (not asserted) was used to build the Great Pyramid and other impressive monuments and artifacts. (To clear up this point I should point out that my original manuscript was riddled with the word speculated. My copy editor asked me not to be redundant by rest
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Chris Dunn
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Ancient History
<HTML>Hi Anthony,
I thought all I had to do was quote Mary Poppins for the big word prize? See how behind the times I am?
Seriously, my reply to sandy indicates what I was trying to do by presenting the chemical similarities here. As to the bath water issue, I guess I hadn't gotten there yet... I was too micro-focussed on the issue of whether it is really possible to make artificial
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Litz
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<HTML>>Date Posted: 23:06:56 07/21/01 Sat
>Author: Margaret Morris
>Subject: Re: Rebuttal 2: Margaret Morris v Archae Solenhofen - Part 2
>In reply to: Margaret Morris 's message, "Rebuttal 2: Margaret Morris v Archae Solenhofen - Part 1" on 23:06:56
>07/21/01 Sat
>Part 2: Tools; Tiny Stone Beads; Conclusion
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>Archae Solenhofen, however, thinks
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<HTML>Hi sandy and Anthony,
I had to drag out an old chemistry book to finally run down my confusion here, but it did the job... at least for some of the confusion ;-) I must first address the portland cement issue... my understanding of Davidovits is that it is the "zeolite" that is the natural cement that binds "such stones as sandstone, puddingstone, and fossil-shell l
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Litz
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<HTML>Date Posted: 22:45:53 07/21/01 Sat
>Author: Margaret Morris
>Subject: Rebuttal 2: Margaret Morris v
>Archae Solenhofen - Part 1
>Rebuttal 2: Margaret Morris v Archae Solenhofen
>Part 1: Hard Stone Vessels; Colossi of Memnon;
>Ancient Geopolymers
>Advanced Technology: Archae Solenhofen characterizes
>me as an "advanced technology claimant" wherea
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<HTML>Sandy:
Not bad for a guy running an IBM 286.
I thought she said salt. Perhaps it was sodium carbonate or something like that.
So, let me get this straight...
Any geopolymer would be necessarily brittle?
It could have a similar chemical composition, but could be completely "STRUCTURALLY" different?
If this is the case, then no wonder we've never been allowed to ex
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Anthony
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Ancient History
<HTML>>Given that Archae wishes to explain away
>all features with stone cutting methods,
>let us see how he deals with the
>following example: The Church father
>Clement of Alexandria (c. A.D. 150-215)
>preserved a description of the
>manufacture of the stone colossus of the
>Greco-Egyptian god Serapis:
_"qoute" snip>
>This is not an example o
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<HTML>Date Posted: 22:45:53 07/21/01 Sat
>Author: Margaret Morris
>Subject: Rebuttal 2: Margaret Morris v
>Archae Solenhofen - Part 1
>Rebuttal 2: Margaret Morris v Archae Solenhofen
>Part 1: Hard Stone Vessels; Colossi of Memnon;
>Ancient Geopolymers
>Advanced Technology: Archae Solenhofen characterizes
>me as an "advanced technology claimant" wherea
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<HTML>Anthony
Large amounts of salt destroy concrete, in time the concrete formation becomes soft and fragments.
I do not believe that shells would behave in the same manner as an aggregate additive to the concrete mix, the shells are brittle and would no give added strength, also they would not act in the same manner as a steel fabric reinforcing.
you asked
>How important is the pr
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sandy
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<HTML>Sandy/Litz:
Good points. You have seen the recipe for geopolymer in previous posts (salt, lime, shells, etc). The shells in the mix would tend to act like iron wire/rods in concrete. However, they would hardly constitute enough strength to hold together a composite of the nature that Sandy is describing.
In actuality, having handled the coral stone from the Coral Castle.... well,
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Anthony
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<HTML>Hi sandy,
Thanks for the reply... however, it was my understanding that the geopolymer composition being proposed by Davidovits is anything but simple portland without the additives. That is why I asked. I was under the impression that the whole reason behind the word "geopolymer" is because its total chemical composition is such that upon curing it is in essence the same
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Litz
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<HTML>A cross-examination of Margaret Morris's "Margaret Morris v Archae Solenhofen" (parts 1 &2):
If I may be candid, there is no validity in a geopolymer theory. It's as simple as that. I'll begin with some quotes from the above mentioned letters:
___"...Mesopotamian ruins have been independently shown by mainstream archaeologists and geologists to cont
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<HTML>Rebuttal 2: Margaret Morris v Archae Solenhofen
Part 1: Hard Stone Vessels; Colossi of Memnon; Ancient Geopolymers
Advanced Technology: Archae Solenhofen characterizes me as an "advanced technology claimant" whereas nothing could be further from the truth. He writes, "Well, there seems a extraordinary effort among advanced technology claimants..." The truth is t
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Margaret Morris
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<HTML>So much for my HTML skills.
Here's franks:
Here's davidovits
i'm such a dolt.
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Anthony
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<HTML>Lately there's been a hefty debate being waged for/against the geopolymer theory.
Margaret Morris has been weighing in pretty heavily against Frank D... and Frank has been countering with some pretty serious comebacks.
Here's the link to Frank's site. He just returned from Egypt, and will be adding more photos to the link. Fortunately, it is now in English.
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