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January 31, 2023, 12:58 pm UTC    
February 14, 2022 07:27PM
Holger Isenberg Wrote:
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> Hans Wrote:
> -------------------------------------------------------
> > Irregular, uneven, different sizes, 'lumps'
>
> Yes. Do you see how the joints have the same
> air-gap through their irregular shape? The shape
> of one block at the joint follows exactly the
> neighbor block at a fixed distance. That's
> explained by the shrinking over time during
> completing the curing process. It would be a
> ridiculous amount of work to manually shape each
> block's irregular side surface to fit the
> neighbor's irregular side surface. With the
> pouring process and using an existing block as one
> side of the mold, it solves the problem
> automatically without additional work.

The example in the video you provided showed he used sided mounds but not a bottom.

[photos.smugmug.com]
This image doesn't show that. the central block is straight on the left side crooked on the right. How does that happen in a 'common mold'?
>
> You may now say that the wooden molds Davidovits
> uses in the video have flat surface. Yes, that's
> true. But he could also have used flexible molds
> from fabric or leather.

'Flexible' molds won't hold a ton + of weight nor are they rigid enough
>
> > Do a very careful examination of these stones in
> the GP which ones are poured?
>
> All of those I see in that old photo. You can see
> interesting small details of the pouring process
> in some, like layers of air bubbles.
>
> > They are pretty much all individualistic
>
> Correct. As explained by the process when using
> flexible molds.

Again the example you used used rigid wooden molds.

AGAIN apply your explanations to the stones in this image of the Great pyramid
[i.imgur.com]

AGAIN explain the logical reason the stone of the other tier are not regular but irregular
[i.imgur.com] the same also applies to the top of Khafre's tomb also

[i.imgur.com]

AGAIN explain why they would careful take out block of stone by bashing and levering instead of crushing the limestone in situ? Why would they waste their time doing so?

[www.wonders-of-the-world.net]

Lehner said:

""Lehner suspected that this great pit furnished most of the local stone for the core of the Great Pyramid. He calculated the missing volume of stone and compared the sum to the volume of the Great Pyramid (see MDAIK 41, 1985).

The ancient quarrymen began removing stone by cutting channels the size of hotel corridors to isolate big blocks of bedrock. They subdivided these blocks with smaller channels, just wide enough for a single quarryman to drive the channel forward.
A quarry channel, Sphinx head in background

A quarry channel, Sphinx head in background

When they isolated the desired-size block, they would insert levers as big as railroad ties into sockets along the underside and then pry the stone free from the bedrock. Once the stone was free they would drag it away. You can still see some of their channels and lever sockets.

Working this way, the pyramid builders cut the huge quarry to a maximum depth of 30 meters (98.4 feet) below the plateau surface.

The bottom of the quarry slopes slightly upwards to the north toward what would later become the Khafre causeway. Massive amounts of limestone, sand, tafla (desert clay), and gypsum debris now fill the center of the quarry. Lehner speculates this material might be remnants of the pyramid construction ramps, which the workers removed and dumped back into the quarry to fill it at the end of the project."

Why not just use it for the geopolymer?

[www.aeraweb.org]



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 02/14/2022 07:37PM by Hans.
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Were the Pyramids Built or Poured? (Carl Feagans)

Hermione January 30, 2022 08:55AM

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Hermione January 30, 2022 05:40PM

Re: Were the Pyramids Built or Poured? (Carl Feagans)

Hans January 31, 2022 01:50PM

cure time, efflorescence ....no? Coffee

Pistol February 13, 2022 12:28AM

Re: cure time, efflorescence ....no? Coffee

Hermione February 13, 2022 04:16AM

Re: cure time, efflorescence ....no? Coffee

Holger Isenberg February 13, 2022 08:23PM

Re: cure time, efflorescence ....no? Coffee

Hans February 14, 2022 11:10AM

Re: cure time, efflorescence ....no? Coffee

Holger Isenberg February 14, 2022 03:31PM

Michel Barsoum, 2006, SEM analysis of GP stones

Holger Isenberg February 08, 2022 12:59AM

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Hermione February 08, 2022 05:27AM

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Hermione February 09, 2022 04:10AM

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Holger Isenberg February 10, 2022 12:47AM

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Hermione February 10, 2022 04:18AM

Re: Michel Barsoum, 2006, SEM analysis of GP stones

Hans February 11, 2022 02:10AM

Holger you seem to be avoiding this evidence? Why?

Hans February 12, 2022 12:55AM

Hans, just look through my telescope.

Holger Isenberg February 12, 2022 01:05AM

Re: Hans, just look through my telescope.

Hans February 12, 2022 02:50AM

Re: Hans, just look through my telescope.

Holger Isenberg February 14, 2022 03:41PM

Re: Hans, just look through my telescope.

Hans February 14, 2022 07:27PM

Re: Hans, just look through my telescope.

Holger Isenberg February 14, 2022 07:53PM

Re: Hans, just look through my telescope.

Hans February 16, 2022 05:34PM

Re: Hans, just look through my telescope.

Holger Isenberg February 16, 2022 08:46PM

Moderator request

Hermione February 12, 2022 03:37AM

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Re: Michel Barsoum, 2006, SEM analysis of GP stones

Hermione February 09, 2022 06:22AM

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Hans February 09, 2022 01:09AM

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Hermione February 11, 2022 04:31AM

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Holger Isenberg February 11, 2022 05:03PM

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Hermione February 11, 2022 06:11PM

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Holger Isenberg February 11, 2022 07:01PM

Roth and Reisner

Hermione February 12, 2022 04:10AM

Re: Roth and Reisner

Holger Isenberg February 12, 2022 03:28PM

Re: Were the Pyramids Built or Poured? (Carl Feagans)

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Hans February 12, 2022 12:52AM

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Holger Isenberg February 12, 2022 01:22AM

Fossils

Hermione February 12, 2022 03:39AM

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