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May 13, 2024, 12:42 pm UTC    
February 02, 2008 01:26AM
DDeden Wrote:
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> with fire and axes). I think "aqua" correlated to
> dugouts and derived plankboats but not reed rafts
> or wooden boats following reed raft design (which
> would probably include the word for reed/weave).

It doesn't seem to -- at least not in the dictionary that I have (which is a small one, to be sure.)

> I accept your point about knapping cores, I meant
> the OK AE were expert at stone cutting technology,
> using bronze/copper/iron as stand-ins for
> antler/bone/stone tools.

Uhm... well... the two techniques are so vastly different that they are really different crafts. And the tools are used in very different ways.

> Lingusistic research: I started from 10 million
> years back:

10 million years? That predates Sahelanthropus tchadensis, the earliest known hominid -- the time of the gorilla-like Chororapithecus abyssinicus.
[www.talkorigins.org]
[timelinesdb.com]

> calls and physical gestures, volume + pitch =
> dominance, territory, alarm
> then clicking consonants and tonal humming vowel
> sounds, at seashores
> then vocalized words like mama, waeta (wet, water,
> wader), m~r, w~t

You determined this from the molars? Or jawbones?

> then technical words like tek, ora,
> (ochre/ore-man), akwa

...and that all the hominds did this? Australopithecus? Erectus? Neanderthals? What cultural or forensic evidence are you using to support this?

> then tribal trade words like urban, boater/border,
> port, paddler/peddler
> then herd count words like herdman, turkmen,

"men/man" is a recent word for humans.

> viking (bi-con),

Sorry, that comes from the Old Norse word "vikingr." I doubt the Neanderthals and Erectus and Habilus used any Old Norse words.

> hund-erd (120)

That's a fairly recent addition from proto-Germanic:
[www.etymonline.com]

> then farm-town words like plow, plot, furrow,
> bake, store
> then city words like poli, script, concentrate
> (100 cone huts per?)

From the Latin meaning "together" and "center" and has nothing to do with hundreds or cone huts.
[www.etymonline.com]

> I guess what I'm saying
> is that I may be 20% incorrect on word details,
> yet be correct conceptually overall.

I don't see how you've proved any of this or identified its origins. You've stated conclusively you "know" this happened at a time long before humans ever existed; at a time when our lineage consisted of proto-apes. You then make some statements about what sounds were made without giving any references to "are their mouths capable of making these sounds and do they have the structures (hyoid arch) and free tongue that need to be present in order to make those sounds.

> Sn = O-Sn (ocean),
No. If there'd been an "o" sound in front they would have used one of the vowel designates. Although they didn't put them in the middle of the words, they put them at the beginning of words -- and at the end of words, too.

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AE words: technical origins, water, stonework

DDeden February 01, 2008 12:39AM

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DDeden February 13, 2008 04:46AM

**Thread closed**

Hermione February 14, 2008 04:25AM

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DDeden February 04, 2008 08:15PM

Aker, Akeru, Akhet

DDeden February 02, 2008 04:52AM

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