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May 12, 2024, 7:50 pm UTC    
February 01, 2008 11:52AM
DDeden Wrote:
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> Hi all, been away.
>
> I had asked a while back for translations of
> water, river, river mouth, that is the AE words. I
> can't find that post now, I think Greg or Lee
> answered it. I'm researching early words related
> to stone working, boats, water.
> eg. water, wet, aqua, mar(ine) all are anciently
> linked between widespread languages. I think AE
> word was wtr.
>
> Are aqua (akwa, ahk-wat?) or mar/mer/mor used to
> mean water or boat or sea in OK AE?

Not in my dictionary. iw(i) and iww both refer to owning boats (along with the determinate sign for boat) and smh refers to a common boat (we'd call it a skiff, I think.) There are a number of words for boat (I'm not going to list them) but none of them come close to your syllable set.

This is hardly surprising, since Egyptian is a Hamitic language and not a Romance language.


> Regarding stone tool technology, which the OK AE
> were experts, were these words used?

No. The OK were experts with bronze tools, not stone tools. The stone tools they used were fairly sophisticated hammers and polishers and were not knapped from a core.

> ora ~ for rough stone core or "ore" or "raw" or
> "aurah"
> tek ~ for chips or flakes knapped off the core.
> "nick", "tick", "ket"
> gen ~ remaining stone tool or block or "gem" after
> knapping
> aht/ahk ~ hammerstone or copper hammer or
> "tomahawk", "rock", "batu"

In order to make linguistic connections, you need to know more about the language families and the grammar structures. Humans can only make a limited range of sounds, so you do find crossover syllables (and if you hunt hard enough you can find some that "sort of sound like" the same syllables in a similar word in another languate.) But to make a connection based on a word list is bad research.

It's the kind of thing that would break down "knackwurst" into "knack" and "worst" and conclude that the sausage had some relation to a lowest-ranked food made by the very inept.

Here's some links on linguistics (including 'oldest language') that you may find interesting:
[www.linguistlist.org]

[carlosquiles.com]

Here's a free wikibook that will give you an idea how linguists do research (as opposed to the very bad technique of 'look for sounds in other languages' mode done by many armchair researchers) :
[en.wikibooks.org]
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AE words: technical origins, water, stonework

DDeden February 01, 2008 12:39AM

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Byrd February 01, 2008 11:52AM

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Lee February 01, 2008 11:55AM

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Warwick L Nixon February 01, 2008 02:37PM

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DDeden February 01, 2008 08:21PM

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cladking February 01, 2008 09:05PM

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DDeden February 02, 2008 12:02AM

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Warwick L Nixon February 02, 2008 12:54AM

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DDeden February 02, 2008 03:12AM

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Warwick L Nixon February 02, 2008 01:47PM

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DDeden February 02, 2008 02:49PM

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Warwick L Nixon February 02, 2008 02:55PM

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DDeden February 02, 2008 03:06PM

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Warwick L Nixon February 02, 2008 03:31PM

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Byrd February 02, 2008 01:26AM

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DDeden February 02, 2008 04:40AM

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Piotr Gasiorowski February 02, 2008 01:02PM

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Hermione February 02, 2008 01:16PM

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DDeden February 02, 2008 08:34PM

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Hermione February 03, 2008 04:33AM

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DDeden February 03, 2008 09:19PM

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DDeden February 03, 2008 09:20PM

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Piotr Gasiorowski February 03, 2008 04:03PM

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DDeden February 03, 2008 09:44PM

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Hermione February 04, 2008 04:11AM

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Piotr Gasiorowski February 04, 2008 02:28PM

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DDeden February 04, 2008 08:14PM

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DDeden February 09, 2008 11:55PM

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Hermione February 10, 2008 04:48AM

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Hermione February 10, 2008 04:52AM

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DDeden February 10, 2008 09:48PM

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Piotr Gasiorowski February 11, 2008 07:05PM

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DDeden February 12, 2008 01:52AM

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DDeden February 13, 2008 04:46AM

**Thread closed**

Hermione February 14, 2008 04:25AM

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Byrd February 04, 2008 04:18PM

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DDeden February 04, 2008 08:15PM

Aker, Akeru, Akhet

DDeden February 02, 2008 04:52AM

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Byrd February 03, 2008 03:35AM

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DDeden February 03, 2008 10:29PM

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Byrd February 03, 2008 11:46PM

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DDeden February 04, 2008 08:17PM

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Doug Weller February 04, 2008 09:47AM

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Byrd February 10, 2008 12:44PM

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Byrd February 12, 2008 02:19AM

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DDeden February 12, 2008 03:12AM

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Byrd February 12, 2008 09:17PM

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Byrd February 04, 2008 09:17AM

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Doug Weller February 05, 2008 03:57AM



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