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October 02, 2007 05:53AM
MJ Thomas Wrote:
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> Ronald Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Anthony Wrote:
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > > Khufu's pyramid was an anomaly with
> regards
> > to
> > > having a passage that descended even
> part-way
> > to
> > > the entrance (for more than a few feet,
> > anyway).
> > > The design convention was to have a
> small
> > passage
> > > that sloped down (much like we see
> leading to
> >
> >
> >
> > > the Subterranean Chamber,the first
> > contingency burial
> > > chamber in case of Khufu's early
> demise.) ...
> >
> >
> >
> > The fact that we have the Subterranean
> > ('burial')Chamber, the Queen's
> ('burial')Chamber
> > and the King's Chamber, of which three at
> least
> > one is the result of the possibility of
> Khufu's
> > early demise, indicates that, imo, these
> chambers
> > were not planned in advance, but designed at
> and
> > built from the very moment that the new
> situation
> > (the survival of Khufu) occured. For such
> > circumstance, the wonderful characteristic of
> the
> > Ancient Egyptians, namely having been
> intuitive
> > builders, was utterly suitable.
>
> Hello Ronald,
>
> It is not known what the Subterranean Chamber and
> Queen's Chamber were intended to be for.
> The "contingency burial chamber" hypothesis is
> exactly that: a hypothesis, and one that does not,
> IMO, stand up to close scrutiny at all well.
>
> > The most planning was needed not for the
> interior
> > design, but for the quarrying, shaping,
> > transport/supply and the placement of the
> > stone-blocks forming the horizontal courses.
> After
> > all, the very narrow core of the pyramid
> (the
> > chambers and passages), represent only a
> tiny
> > fraction of the overall stone mass.
>
> It strikes me that here you are erroneously
> lumping the designing of the Pyramid's interior in
> with the planning required for the "quarrying,
> shaping, transport/supply and the placement of the
> stone-blocks forming the horizontal courses".
>
> It is worth noting that the building of the upper
> Passages and Chambers, and the astonishing Grand
> Gallery were a very different and much more
> demanding proposition to the comparatively easier
> to build core of the Pyramid's superstructure.



Hey MJ,


I simply mean, imho, that there was never a building-plan, not for the QC, nor for the KC, at any moment; excépt at the very moment a new situation occured (the survival of Khufu and related change of mind of the Pharaoh), a design/plan/construction was booted and executed.


Ronald.

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Passageways in the Pyramids

Sirfiroth September 29, 2007 12:48AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

fmetrol September 29, 2007 02:08AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

fmetrol September 29, 2007 07:34PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

MJ Thomas September 29, 2007 12:10PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Ronald September 30, 2007 04:22PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

cladking September 30, 2007 04:40PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Anthony September 30, 2007 04:53PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

MJ Thomas September 30, 2007 07:32PM

One in a hundred is not enough

Anthony October 01, 2007 10:37AM

Re: One in a hundred is not enough

MJ Thomas October 01, 2007 11:51AM

No need for detailed, pre-planning.

Ronald October 01, 2007 04:30PM

Re: No need for detailed, pre-planning.

MJ Thomas October 01, 2007 06:37PM

Re: No need for detailed, pre-planning.

Ronald October 02, 2007 05:53AM

Re: No need for detailed, pre-planning.

Ritva Kurittu October 02, 2007 07:23AM

Re: No need for detailed, pre-planning.

Ronald October 02, 2007 12:35PM

Re: No need for detailed, pre-planning.

Ritva Kurittu October 02, 2007 01:09PM

Re: No need for detailed, pre-planning.

Ronald October 02, 2007 04:19PM

Agreed completely

Anthony October 02, 2007 04:30PM

Re: Agreed completely

MJ Thomas October 02, 2007 04:45PM

Re: Agreed completely

Anthony October 02, 2007 05:26PM

Re: Agreed completely

Ronald October 03, 2007 02:28AM

Re: Agreed completely

Anthony October 03, 2007 05:36AM

Re: Agreed completely

Ronald October 04, 2007 06:17AM

Re: Agreed completely

Anthony October 04, 2007 04:09PM

Note

Hermione October 04, 2007 05:12PM

Re: Agreed completely

MJ Thomas October 03, 2007 02:29AM

Re: Agreed completely

MJ Thomas October 05, 2007 02:13PM

Re: Agreed completely

Anthony October 05, 2007 05:01PM

Re: Agreed completely

MJ Thomas October 06, 2007 10:13AM

Re: Agreed completely

MJ Thomas October 06, 2007 05:30PM

Two posts answered in one

Anthony October 10, 2007 02:29PM

Re: Agreed completely

Ronald October 03, 2007 01:20AM

Re: Agreed completely

Anthony October 03, 2007 05:40AM

Re: Agreed completely

Ritva Kurittu October 03, 2007 09:59AM

Re: Agreed completely

Anthony October 03, 2007 12:25PM

Re: Agreed completely

Ritva Kurittu October 03, 2007 12:56PM

Re: Agreed completely

Ronald October 03, 2007 05:48PM

Respecting the Pyramid Builders

Anthony October 04, 2007 05:04AM

Re: Respecting the Pyramid Builders

Ronald October 04, 2007 06:03AM

Re: Respecting the Pyramid Builders

Anthony October 04, 2007 01:19PM

Re: Respecting the Pyramid Builders

Ronald October 04, 2007 04:05PM

Re: Agreed completely

Ritva Kurittu October 03, 2007 10:02AM

Re: Agreed completely

Ronald October 03, 2007 05:59PM

Re: Agreed completely

Ritva Kurittu October 04, 2007 11:15AM

Re: Agreed completely

Ronald October 04, 2007 12:43PM

Re: Agreed completely

Ritva Kurittu October 04, 2007 02:27PM

Re: Agreed completely

cladking October 04, 2007 03:33PM

Re: Agreed completely

Hermione October 04, 2007 03:46PM

Re: Agreed completely

Anthony October 04, 2007 07:43PM

Re: Agreed completely

cladking October 04, 2007 07:49PM

Re: Agreed completely

Anthony October 05, 2007 05:48AM

Re: Agreed completely

Ritva Kurittu October 05, 2007 10:05AM

Re: Agreed completely

Ronald October 04, 2007 04:47PM

Khufu's redundant pyramid

Anthony October 04, 2007 07:42PM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

Ronald October 05, 2007 08:41AM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

David Johnson October 05, 2007 09:32AM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

Ronald October 05, 2007 05:35PM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

David Johnson October 06, 2007 07:33AM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

Ronald October 05, 2007 05:33PM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

cladking October 05, 2007 06:04PM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

Ronald October 06, 2007 06:42AM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

cladking October 06, 2007 10:11AM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

MJ Thomas October 06, 2007 10:54AM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

Ronald October 06, 2007 05:11PM

Re: Khufu's redundant pyramid

MJ Thomas October 06, 2007 05:40PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

MJ Thomas September 30, 2007 07:10PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Ronald October 01, 2007 05:54AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

MJ Thomas October 01, 2007 10:38AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Anthony October 01, 2007 10:48AM

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Ronald October 03, 2007 06:21PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Anthony October 04, 2007 05:08AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Ronald October 04, 2007 10:20AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Ritva Kurittu October 04, 2007 11:22AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Ronald October 04, 2007 12:55PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Ritva Kurittu October 04, 2007 02:34PM

Note

Hermione October 04, 2007 02:57PM

Re: Note

Ritva Kurittu October 04, 2007 03:11PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Ronald October 04, 2007 04:33PM

Final Post on the Ad Hoc Pyramid scheme

Anthony October 04, 2007 07:34PM

Re: Final Post on the Ad Hoc Pyramid scheme

Ronald October 05, 2007 02:41AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Jammer October 02, 2007 12:25PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Anthony September 29, 2007 06:23PM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

Sirfiroth September 30, 2007 12:32AM

Re: Passageways in the Pyramids

MJ Thomas September 30, 2007 05:35AM

Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Anthony September 30, 2007 09:36AM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Sirfiroth September 30, 2007 01:09PM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Anthony September 30, 2007 04:52PM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Sirfiroth September 30, 2007 07:04PM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Anthony September 30, 2007 07:18PM

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MJ Thomas September 30, 2007 08:03PM

Moderator Note

Pete Clarke October 01, 2007 05:26AM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Anthony October 01, 2007 10:40AM

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Ritva Kurittu October 01, 2007 11:44AM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Sirfiroth October 02, 2007 04:32PM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Anthony October 02, 2007 05:32PM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

MJ Thomas September 30, 2007 07:20PM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Anthony October 01, 2007 11:01AM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

cladking October 01, 2007 01:21PM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

MJ Thomas October 01, 2007 02:51PM

Re: Pyramid Resources for Beginners

Rick Baudé October 02, 2007 09:26AM

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MJ Thomas October 02, 2007 04:35PM

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Anthony October 02, 2007 06:09PM

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Anthony October 02, 2007 08:21PM



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