February 29, 2016 06:46PM
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Lee Olsen Wrote:
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> > > > Sorry, I've been referencing the
> extra
> > large
> > > front
> > > > claw as the perching claw, NOT the
> > > rear-facing
> > > > claw! The rear claw was used in
> > balancing
> > > upright
> > > > while on the ground, in water, on
> > branches.
> > >
> > > So I take it you don't have any examples
> of
> > a
> > > perching bird (on the large end of the
> size
> > scale)
> > > that can climb with this front facing
> claw
> > like a
> > > lineman?
> >
> > I have no significant evidence that Zs
> climbed or
> > perched
>
> Right, so why keep repeating you don't?
>
> > using the enlarged front claw/toe (one
> > each limb, so 4 total, compare this number
> to
> > (dense forest) 2 toed sloth's claws...no, I'm
> not
> > claiming that Zs hung upside down from
> > branches...).
>
> I'm still baffled as to why you keep mentioning
> "dense forest"
Because that is what the article claimed.
and objected to ostriches being
> used as an example because they are found on open
> savannahs (mostly), yet at the same time you used
> kangaroos who also don't inhabit "dense forests".
A tree kangaroo, with a long bony fleshy tail, perched in a tree, in a dense forest (IIRC).
I've never heard of a tree ostrich, associated with dense forest. Perhaps you have.
> That seems rather contradictory to me.
>
> There is new evidence for running speed, but
> absolutely nothing to support hopping.
>
>
> and
>
>
>
> So unless you can find some hopping kangaroo-like
> dino tracks, it looks like it's curtain time for
> this post:
>
>
> "They were not really fast ground runners, they
> probably hopped most of the time. They were forest
> tree-perchers (see big perching claw) that swooped
> down on ground prey, and probably danced and
> displayed near ground level. Leopards, owls,
> fishing cats (Borneo) share some similar traits."
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Lee Olsen |
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Lee Olsen |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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DDeden |
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Khazar-khum |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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Khazar-khum |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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DDeden |
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DDeden |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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DDeden |
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Khazar-khum |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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Khazar-khum |
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DDeden |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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DDeden |
July 18, 2016 12:05PM |
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Lee Olsen |
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DDeden |
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Lee Olsen |
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Khazar-khum |
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Rick Baudé |
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DDeden |
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Khazar-khum |
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DDeden |
July 30, 2016 12:11PM |
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Lee Olsen |
July 30, 2016 12:59PM |
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Lee Olsen |
July 29, 2016 05:01PM |
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DDeden |
July 30, 2016 12:14PM |
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Lee Olsen |
July 30, 2016 01:05PM |
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DDeden |
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DDeden |
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Hermione |
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