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May 8, 2024, 11:14 pm UTC    
May 24, 2005 03:05PM
Ritva Kurittu Wrote:
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> Hi Pete,
>
> the problem I have with this is, that most
> everybody agreeing at some degree with ID are
> labelled as Christian fundies or worse. As I
> wrote, im my case nothing could be further from
> the truth! The evolution theory has it's faults,
> and you know it. But nowadays (and on this forum
> too) it has become impossible to mention those,
> because of the immediate label of creationist. I
> think that is unfair.

Part of the problem is that ID's have formed an alliance with the fundamentalists Philip Johnson formulated what is called the "wedge strategy" (google that) by which ID is pushed in places like Kansa and Dover Delaware to try to sideslip the Supreme Court's ruling that "scientific creationism" (what the Young Earthers push) was religion not science and thus banned by the 1st Amendment. The object is to discredit evolution and get "equal time" and "teach the controversy" established-- whereupon the fundamentalists would come in with their brand. ID'ers are very slippery in avoiding direct confrontations with Young Earthers. For example. in the recent "trial" in Kansas ID witnesses would not directly answer questions about the age of the earth. Thus, if the proponents of ID will not distinguish themselves from Christian fundamentalists it is difficult not to lump them together.
Bernard


> Anyway, I agree with you about not giving the
> children a choise. Thanks to powers that be
> (teheh), we do not have that problem here.
>
>


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