> Wireless, what you don't seem to appreciate is the fact that just because something can be
> designed or reproduced, it doesn't mean it was engineered in the same fashion naturally.

Please note that I have never said that it is/was engineered in the same exact fashion in Nature!

> We understand how thunderstorms are created and to a certain extent we can reproduce them
> in labs, but this does not mean that they occur in nature in the same way we reproduce
> them.

but of course...

> Creationism/ID is intellectually lazy and has no logical foundation.

Say what!?

The weather outside is nice right now and the Sun is out! Washington DC is the capital of the USA! I will get cold when the temperature drops below a certain level! The car is red. I could go on and on with random and arbritary statements! Maybe that is how randomness works!

> Life evolved according to the physical laws of the universe, and to simply attribute
> those laws to God magic does a great disservice to both the universe and the human
> intellect's quest for understanding.

I have no idea what you are talking about!? Who is attributing those laws to "God magic"!!?? This makes no sense at all to me! Maybe you've got me confused with someone else!!!

The world is not just black and white!

> We can't ask "well then, where did those physical laws come from?" because nobody can
> ever know the answer.

WOW!!! Then that would be an answer since you are stating with so much "authority" that "nobody" can ever know the answer!

Either case, please tell us since when do you "speak" for everybody!? I certainly did not assign or ellect you to be my spokesperson!!!

> The laws are the framework within which evolution operates,

OK!

> and those laws didn't exist before the Big Bang,

Double WOW!!! and "exactly" how do you know that!?

> nor is our understanding of how those laws operate relevent to the "cause" of their
> creation.

Say what!? Then who/what/when/how these laws got created or originated is just irrelevant to you!? Talk about "magic" (pooofff -- here's a rabbit from the hat)...

-wirelessguru1