"Please note that I have never said that it is/was engineered in the same exact fashion in Nature!"
Essentially, thats what you're saying. That just because something can be designed now, it must serve as undeniable proof that it was engineered in the past. That is not logical reasoning.
"Say what!?"
I said intelligent design and creationism is intellectually lazy and with no logical foundation. It ignores science and every piece of evidence gathered since the beginning of the human endeavor to gain scientific understanding. It is based on a desire to comfort insecurities, not objective scientific reasoning.
"I have no idea what you are talking about!? Who is attributing those laws to "God magic"!!?? This makes no sense at all to me! Maybe you've got me confused with someone else!!!"
What created the creator? A proponent of creationism or ID will eventually have to come to the conclusion I gave above. If god is not the manifestion of all physical laws, then he created them. God magic.
"WOW!!! Then that would be an answer since you are stating with so much "authority" that "nobody" can ever know the answer!
Either case, please tell us since when do you "speak" for everybody!? I certainly did not assign or ellect you to be my spokesperson!!!"
We can't know the answer. Its impossible. We can guess but even those guesses are utterly without any evidence backing them. Before the Big Bang nobody can know what existed, and nobody can know or understand the "reason" for its occurance because the laws we know only came into existance with that occurance. There isn't a need for cause and effect because that relationship only came into being with the beginning of the physical universe.
">and those laws didn't exist before the Big Bang,
Double WOW!!! and "exactly" how do you know that!?"
Because the universe within which those laws operate and depend on did not exist.
"> nor is our understanding of how those laws operate relevent to the "cause" of their
> creation.
Say what!? Then who/what/when/how these laws got created or originated is just irrelevant to you!? Talk about "magic" (pooofff -- here's a rabbit from the hat)... "
No, just impossible to know.