wirelessguru1 Wrote:
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> > BOM- Thus the air is warmer near the Equator
> and thus less dense and rises; the air at
> > the poles is colder and denser. This sets up
> a circular motion of the air Equator to
> > Pole at higher altitude and Pole to Equator
> at the surface.
>
> Yet, low pressure zones are formed around the
> Equator over the Oceans as the nucleus of
> hurricanes!

When a front moves and separates two air masses of different densities. The air masses flowing side by side may develop zones of strong "wind shear" (i.e. they will have different velocities). In these cases there is a tendency for both air masses to develop a spin and create a "wave". As this wave develops , a low presure develops at its apex and both the warm and cold air currents move around it. [BOM-- notice that the magnetic field has nothing to do with this.] This is a wave whirlpool cyclone. When these occur in the tropics, they get a particular local name N. America (Hurricane), Eastern Asia (Typhoon), India (Cyclone) Australia (willy willy), china Sea (Baguio). Same mechanism different names-- but no earth magnetic field involvement.
>
> Also, the main air flow Jet Stream tends to go
> West-East and NOT North-South (or vice-versa),
> like from Poles to Equator as you claim!!!

If you would read I pointed out that the simple model I described does not account for the fact that the earth is rotating, which is what causes the Jet Stream :-).
>
> > This would be simple except that the earth is
> spinning and that creates a lot of
> > complications in the weather.
>
> The point is that the complications don't come
> just from the spinning but also from EM changes!

They do not-- for a change-- why don't you stop blatant assertions and try to develop an argument and a mechanism with some evidence-- preferably with some citations. Of course you can't, which is why you don't.
>
> > The basic point, however is that high and low
> pressure areas have to do with the
> > temperature of the air and nothing whatever
> to do with the earth’s magnetic field.
>
> Wishful thinking! A thunder storm, for example,
> can quickly change the temperature of the air
> during a storm and that is, of course, due to the
> heat generated by the lightening discharge

only in a very localized area-- this would not affect a general weather pattern-- if you have evidence to the contrary, produce it!!

...and
> electricity is always directly related to
> magnetism. That is a FACT.

Only in your dreams-- if lightning produced a magnetic field, it would only last a fraction of second and is unrelated to the earth's magnetic field. Static electricity has NOTHING to do with magnetism.
>
> Meaning that electricity and therefore magnetism
> changes, can directly affect the temperature of
> the air, specially during lightening
> discharges...
>
> > BOM- Thus the source of electric charge in
> clouds that leads to thunder and lightning
> > is not the earth’s magnetic field.
>
> But, changes in magnetism create an electric
> current. Are you denying that!?
>
> So, if/when there are more changes in the earth's
> magnetic field, then those changes can also
> potentially and DIRECTLY induce changes in the
> electric flows in the the atmosphere...

If you have any evidence for this claim --produce it!!


>
> > Just because there is a relationship that
> electric currents produce magnetic fields
> > and that conversely moving magnetic fields
> produce electric currents does not mean
> > that all electricity is somehow related to
> magnetic fields and vice versa.
>
> Of course it is! Electricity (primarily AC) and
> magnetism are DIRECTLY RELATED...Changes in one
> directly affect/effect changes in the other. For
> example, what is actually flowing in the power
> lines carrying electricity is an AC power EM wave
> at low frequencies...
>
Again (sigh :-() Direct current will certainly produce a magnetic field with a particular Norht-south orientation. Alternating current will produce magnetic fields whose poles will reverse at the same rate as the current alternates. You are arguing that the earth's magnetic field has all these changes and that this affects weather--but-- the earth's magnetic field is like the one produced by a direct current, not an AC current, it has a permanent North and south pole and they have not reversed in 700,000 years.
Bernard


> Maybe you should review your notes about
> electricity and magnetism!!!
>
> -wirelessguru1
>