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Joanne
August 07, 2001 02:19PM
<HTML>Garrett wrote:
"I see a rather large difference between an organization that insists extraordinary claims be tested in controlled conditions (CSICOP) and one that enforces a doctrinal orthodoxy with physical torture and execution (the Inquisition). But perhaps that's just me."

Perhaps it is just you. What I see as similar (identical, really) is that only one side gets to make the rules of the test or sets the standard to apply. Logic and truth are shaped by cultural and language. There is no pure universal truth; not in medieval Christianity nor in Science. Any test then is arbitrary. Those wielding the power pretend it is fair. The Inquisitors knew they could get the results they wanted by phrasing the questions in the right way and creating classic no-win situations. So does CSICOP.

Garret also wrote:
"It is no enforcer of an imagined 'orthodoxy.' Rather, the organization requires that people who go public with extraordinary claims that are testable be held accountable for those claims and prove them accurate. What is wrong with that?"

What is wrong is CSICOPs frequently insist on testing what is not testable, sometimes including what has not even been defined clearly. They are not objective in their tests; they frequently set to disprove claims. They have also manipulated results to get what they want. Some "claims" cannot be tested, yet people have experiences with which they must cope somehow. Why should human experience be limited to what pleases Randi and Kurtz and their ilk? Like Torquemada, they are this era's thought police.

Joanne</HTML>
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