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May 3, 2024, 12:10 pm UTC    
October 03, 2010 03:08AM
>>Examining pictures of it leave me somewhat confused... are the corners pointing to the compass cardinals, or are the sides? parallel with the cardinal directions?
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It does not refer to geographic cardinal directions meaning in regards to the North Pole. It refers to magnetic cardinal directions meaning in regards to magnetic north which is somewhere in Canada. But the position of magnetic north changes from time to time, so when Moameth, or Ishmael or Abraham were alive it was probably at an entirely different position than today. I just want to note that something strange is that today it is not the Kaaba that aligns with the magnetic north south direction, it is the Mecca – Medina direction that does. I can only assume this is a coincidence and not some sort of prophetic encoding of our own epoch.

>>Either way, your 'different approach' is flawed in that you only show three lines out of the four necessary... and they appear to be of different distances to boot.<<

Four lines are not needed, actually not even three are needed. One vector suffices. This means that if the architects started out from the Mecca position, all they had to do is align the larger side – the length of the Kaaba with the position of a certain landmark. The tallest mountain of the Arabian peninsula would be the most logical choice. They would then try to point out this choice – the length correlation – by erecting pillars in this direction as they have indeed done.

But instead of seeing one alignment we see two more – with K-2 , second tallest mountain on Earth – in Pakistan / Asia, and with mount Olympus, second tallest mountain in the Balkans and home of the Hellenic 12 Gods with Zeus above all. The Kaaba does not align with the tallest mountain in the Americas, in Africa, it also does not align with the Alps, mount Everest, Etna, Elbrus, etc.

Using Hellenic isopsephia(gematria) I noted that adding up the country names of the three mountains aligned (Hellas, Pakistan, Yemen) I was led to the height of Kafre’s pyramid – the Sun and Jupiter(Zeus) pyramid. Adding to that Mecca I came up with the half base diagonal of the same pyramid(and the maximum distance between Earth and the Sun). Hard to believe these are simple coincidences.

I know someone might ask – why not chose a place in Arabia that aligns with both the tallest mountain in Arabia – and the tallest mountain of all – Everest. The answer it that this is not geodetically possible if one takes in mind Olympus. Olympus - Jabal an Nabi Shu'ayb defines one direction. If one brings a perpendicular line from Everest the point of intersection is outside the Arabian peninsula – somewhere in Somalia.

The above shows us that it was not just the Kaaba that was aligned with tall mountains , it was the coordinates of Mecca itself that were chosen - as it seems from above. Thus Mecca and in particular the Kaaba is an omphalus – like the stones found at ancient Hellenic sacred sites(Delphi) etc. This means that these sacred coordinates were chosen based on geodetic geometrical properties – not just to form nice isosceles triangles – but more importantly to encoded sacred astronomic information – like the radius of Mars(just look at the Mecca- Medina distance). I have thus found correlations of the Kaaba with places in the Arabic peninsula, as also Egypt, and Hellas(mainland and Crete). I find it hard to believe this was the work of Moameth – besides most of these sites are very old.

It thus seems that maybe with holy guidance , Moameth chose pre-existing landmarks – site positions - from an ancient very advanced civilization with global architectural activity.

>>Of more interest is the 'black stone' itself, and the history of the Kaaba, which is allegedly dating back to Ibrahim and Ishmael.<<
Wiki:

“ Jews, Christians and Muslims believe Ishmael is Abraham's eldest son and first born. According to the Genesis account, he died at the age of 137.”

137 is the inverse of the fine structure constant. A civilization that knows the fine structure constant can compute geodetic distances with great accuracy as also compute thing like the radius of nearby planets.


>>Has modern science accepted the existence of Ishmael & the construction of the Kaaba, or is there relevant sources on them? (kind of curious, but not really)<<
Good question.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/03/2010 03:12AM by Ogygos.
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sacred geodesy , Muslim?

Ogygos September 24, 2010 01:03AM

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Ogygos September 24, 2010 01:42AM

correction

Ogygos September 27, 2010 02:56PM

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Byrd September 24, 2010 11:13AM

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Ogygos September 25, 2010 04:21PM

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Warwick L Nixon September 29, 2010 02:07PM

sacred geodesy , Muslim?

Jammer September 29, 2010 02:14PM

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Warwick L Nixon September 29, 2010 02:25PM

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Khazar-khum September 26, 2010 05:15PM

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Ogygos September 27, 2010 03:11PM

orientation

Ogygos September 28, 2010 03:35PM

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sansahansan October 01, 2010 01:49PM

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Ogygos October 03, 2010 03:08AM

I'll ask again

Warwick L Nixon October 03, 2010 11:28AM

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Khazar-khum October 03, 2010 11:47PM

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Ogygos October 04, 2010 03:07PM

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Warwick L Nixon October 04, 2010 05:16PM

FYI

Warwick L Nixon October 04, 2010 06:54PM

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Warwick L Nixon October 15, 2010 11:32AM

Mecca – Orion – 666

Ogygos August 05, 2011 01:45PM

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