Home of the The Hall of Ma'at on the Internet
Home
Discussion Forums
Papers
Authors
Web Links

May 2, 2024, 8:54 am UTC    
November 25, 2007 07:36PM
Ronald Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> By the way, explain to me, IF the Gizamids were
> designed as a complex, why are they not equal in
> size and why do they absolutely not have the same
> internal design ? And why are the mortuary temples
> so different ? In other words, IF they form a
> pre-planned complex, why is there no uniformity ?
>

I understand what you are implying but the lack of uniformity you see may not necessarily have been randomness to the Egyptian.

If we take a line from their well recorded arithmetical mindset where two-thirds of a number was first extracted before halving it beckons us to look at numbers differently. Theirs was a process more visual than calculative. It was like shifting dominoes around in the sand and there are rules to how the dominoes must be moved. The best way to describe such a process is to think multiples of three. There are texts which clearly show how this works ... first you double a number and then when multiples of three become available you are free to proceed.

The reason I mention "rules" is that the same applied to art and architecture and it was thrashed out well before the 4th dynasty. We see it in the way they portrayed the human figure, where specific postures and proportions, the placement of details etc,, were only possible by being bound to a set of rules. Egyptian art was based on tradition and there was really no incentive for change. We see it as somewhat static or stiff in its execution and so we often overlook the fact that at its core was a well defined set of rules.

Again, at Giza and Saqqara, streets, houses and towns were laid out to a well conceived plan No doubt the architects followed "rules".

So usually underlying all that which we might consider "lacking in uniformity" lies an unique set of rules. These rules predate Khufu and they predate Netjerykhet and on the Giza plateau where it has been suggested that structures predating the 4th dynasty might have existed they probably applied there as well.

Graham

The great amount of labour involved in quarrying and transporting such a mass of masonry as even the casing, has always been a cause of astonishment - Sir Flinders Petrie.

Subject Author Posted

Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

C Wayne Taylor November 20, 2007 05:14AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Anthony November 20, 2007 08:00AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 20, 2007 08:15AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Anthony November 20, 2007 10:07AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 20, 2007 10:43AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Anthony November 20, 2007 11:59AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 20, 2007 03:08PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Anthony November 20, 2007 04:38PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 21, 2007 08:55AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

MJ Thomas November 21, 2007 10:01AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 21, 2007 05:02PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 21, 2007 05:24PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

cladking November 21, 2007 04:50PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 21, 2007 04:56PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 21, 2007 05:23PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 21, 2007 05:28PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 22, 2007 01:52PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 22, 2007 03:29PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 23, 2007 11:46AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 23, 2007 12:38PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2007 01:17PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 23, 2007 01:38PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 25, 2007 08:45AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 25, 2007 01:45PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 25, 2007 02:08PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 25, 2007 05:24PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Anthony November 25, 2007 07:23PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 04:56AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Anthony November 26, 2007 12:09PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

cladking November 26, 2007 01:42PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 03:59PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

fmetrol November 29, 2007 09:10PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 26, 2007 09:10AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Pete Clarke November 26, 2007 09:38AM

Well said, Pete (n/t)

Hermione November 26, 2007 09:47AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 10:17AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Pete Clarke November 26, 2007 10:23AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 11:01AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 26, 2007 11:09AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 11:21AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 26, 2007 11:47AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 11:51AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 26, 2007 11:58AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 12:16PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Jammer November 29, 2007 10:55AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 29, 2007 04:28PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

cladking November 26, 2007 01:50PM

Good points, Pete

Anthony November 26, 2007 11:15AM

Re: Good points, Pete

Ronald November 26, 2007 05:26PM

Good points, Ronald

Anthony November 27, 2007 08:01AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 09:59AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Pete Clarke November 26, 2007 10:21AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 11:07AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 26, 2007 10:56AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 11:31AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 26, 2007 11:49AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 11:55AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 26, 2007 02:39PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 26, 2007 04:00PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 27, 2007 06:00AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 27, 2007 06:29AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 27, 2007 07:25AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 27, 2007 08:19AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 27, 2007 08:59AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 27, 2007 09:57AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 27, 2007 10:25AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 27, 2007 12:08PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 27, 2007 06:12PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 27, 2007 05:36PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Jammer November 29, 2007 11:21AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 29, 2007 04:32PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

MJ Thomas November 30, 2007 05:01AM

*Moderation note*

Hermione November 30, 2007 05:50AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 25, 2007 05:32PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

fmetrol November 25, 2007 07:36PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

cladking November 25, 2007 08:17PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

fmetrol November 25, 2007 08:43PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Jammer November 29, 2007 11:49AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

cladking November 29, 2007 06:52PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 26, 2007 09:01AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

cladking November 21, 2007 05:34PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2007 11:44AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Jammer November 23, 2007 08:26AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 23, 2007 09:07AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Jammer November 23, 2007 09:13AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Warwick L Nixon November 20, 2007 10:48AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Jammer November 20, 2007 02:15PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Warwick L Nixon November 20, 2007 02:19PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Jammer November 21, 2007 07:39AM

Never the Twain shall meet..

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2007 11:04AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

cladking November 21, 2007 05:18PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

lobo-hotei November 22, 2007 08:56AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2007 10:41AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Jammer November 23, 2007 08:04AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

ADC November 21, 2007 05:07AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2007 11:11AM

Giza. G2 VT Position and Size. Detail

C Wayne Taylor November 21, 2007 11:22AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size. Detail

Warwick L Nixon November 21, 2007 11:35AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

ADC November 22, 2007 10:56AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2007 11:19AM

**Mod Note**

Tommi Huhtamaki November 22, 2007 11:22AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Pistol November 20, 2007 12:31PM

The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Anthony November 20, 2007 01:57PM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Pistol November 20, 2007 05:18PM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Anthony November 20, 2007 07:14PM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Pistol November 20, 2007 09:06PM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

cladking November 20, 2007 11:45PM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Pete Clarke November 21, 2007 04:47AM

*Moderation note*

Hermione November 21, 2007 04:06AM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Ronald November 21, 2007 05:09PM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Pistol November 22, 2007 07:19AM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2007 10:34AM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Ronald November 22, 2007 01:17PM

Re: The "Grand Scheme" at Giza

Warwick L Nixon November 22, 2007 01:46PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 21, 2007 05:52AM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Pistol November 21, 2007 03:38PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 21, 2007 05:42PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 21, 2007 05:14PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Hermione November 21, 2007 05:32PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 22, 2007 01:21PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 21, 2007 05:32PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Ronald November 22, 2007 01:20PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Scott Creighton November 22, 2007 06:53PM

Re: Giza. G2 VT Position and Size

Warwick L Nixon November 23, 2007 01:27PM

*Thread closure*

Hermione November 30, 2007 06:02AM

*Moderation note (closure of sub-thread)*

Hermione November 30, 2007 04:59AM



Sorry, you can't reply to this topic. It has been closed.