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April 27, 2024, 9:46 pm UTC    
November 30, 2007 08:58PM
cladking Wrote:
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> Imagine the difficulty of moving a single stone
> weighing
> a couple of tons an average of nearly 200' up.


Yes, I think I can manage to imagine that pretty accurately.


> You have
> nothing at your disposal except ropes, manpower,
> and per-
> haps some animals according to orthodox belief.


That and wood. Mustn't forget the wood. Used to make the sledges and such. They have pictures of those dating from the time before the pyramids were built, you know...


>
> Now multiply this by 2,500,000. That's two and a
> half mil-
> lion stones raised to such a level.

I was actually fully aware that 2,500,000 is equal to "two and a half million".

But aside from that, why do you choose that number? Where's your methodology supporting the assertion that there are 2.5 MM stone blocks in Khufu's pyramid?

I can think of at least one poster on this board who has been published on that subject. 2.5 MM is not the figure he calculated. I can assure you that I could not find any holes in his methodology, either.

So, neither here nor there. Please support your assertion or retract it.

Thanks.


>
> The pyramid weighs around twelve billion pounds.
> That's
> enough work that all 300,000,000 Americans could
> carry forty
> pound to an altitude of around 200' to duplicate
> it.

Why are you talking about Americans?

How many workers were at Giza during Dynasty IV? Can you support that number with evidence? If so, what kind?

> That's
> like forty pounds up a forty story building.

Averages are meaningless. They lead to all sorts of bad conclusions. Yours is just another one of them.


> That's a whole
> lot of work.


Once again, you make a single claim upon which we can agree.



> Sure we could do it very easily and
> it should
> not be that hard even for the ancients, but the
> problem is
> they have to do this work all in the same place.


It would be fairly pointless to do it in different places.


> It would
> be like having a forty story building with
> 300,000,000 peo-
> ple lined up waiting to carry their 40lbs. Even
> if the ancients
> put together a thousand teams to haul stones how
> does anyone work
> while tripping over one another?


Your use of generalizations, assumptions and averages leaves your assertions with no meaning whatsoever. Please provide specifics, or retract your erroneous claims.

> Do they have a
> ramp for every
> team? Do aliens use beams to make the teams and
> stones smaller
> and then reconstitute them at the top?


Both ideas are as plausible as geysers...


>
> You can defend orthodoxy if you want but orthodoxy
> doesn't
> appear to have a real theory for how these were
> built.

There is no such thing as the "orthodoxy"... only an orthodox method for arriving at logical, plausible conclusions.

You don't use the orthodox method because your preconceived conclusion can never be arrived at logically.

What you engage in is special pleading and non sequiturs. That's not how good research is done.


> The
> evidence is extremely scant for all the
> hypotheses.

Untrue.

> It would
> seem that any one that explained most of the facts
> and is most
> easily proven or disproven should certainly get
> some attention.


That's why yours deserves no attention at all.

Anthony

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2007 09:05PM by Anthony.
Subject Author Posted

Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

cladking November 26, 2007 04:40PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

Lee November 27, 2007 09:09AM

Thank you very much Lee.

cladking November 27, 2007 05:16PM

Re: Thank you very much Lee.

cladking November 28, 2007 02:45PM

Facts should be gathered before theories are formed, not after

Anthony November 30, 2007 02:49PM

Observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory.

cladking November 30, 2007 04:18PM

Re: Observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory.

Anthony November 30, 2007 07:40PM

Re: Observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory.

cladking November 30, 2007 08:26PM

Re: Observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory.

Anthony November 30, 2007 08:58PM

Re: Observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory.

Warwick L Nixon December 02, 2007 12:21PM

Re: Observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory.

cladking December 02, 2007 01:35PM

Re: Observation, hypothesis, experiment, theory.

Warwick L Nixon December 02, 2007 02:00PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

Byrd November 28, 2007 10:26PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

cladking November 28, 2007 10:56PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

Byrd November 29, 2007 07:06PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

cladking November 29, 2007 08:28PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

cladking November 29, 2007 11:34PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

cladking November 30, 2007 04:24PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

Anthony November 30, 2007 07:42PM

Re: Esoteric question about glyph for "cataract".

cladking November 30, 2007 08:29PM

Geyser science

Anthony December 01, 2007 10:19AM



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