David Johnson Wrote:
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> Hi Jammer
>
> I don't disagree with you take on the "sundial"
> idea. What I disagree with is your total lack of
> understanding of the AEs view of co-incidence.
>
> Unlike others, who have not responded to my posts
> (why should they. They probably haven't read my
> posts) you are ignoring the evidence. What to you
> is a "hard fact"? (Your requirement). You can't
> get much harder that the stone buildings of AE.
>
> To quote you "I'm not convinced". To be convinced
> you need to actually consider the evidence, do
> your own research and not just respond in a
> knee-jerk reaction.



First, I want to state that I don't think Jammer has had a "knee jerk" response. He's probably demonstrated a conditioned reflex, but it is not a knee jerk response. You see, there have been years of these kinds of coincidences posted here at Ma'at, and to date, nobody has fulfilled the simplest evidenciary requirement for proving intent.

And that is the nature of the counterargument for what you have presented here. You see, we are not arguing about what the AEs would have seen as coincidence, or an omen, or a sign from the gods, but what the AEs intended when they built the structures in question.

In order to document that, we have to find corroborating cultural evidence of two things:

1. The pyramid builders constructed the monument in question with the specific purpose of creating the observed phenomenon

2. The observed phenomenon was actually known to exist.



Without documentation of even the second qualifier here, it is reasonable to say that our observation of the phenomenon is only an ethnocentric projection of intent on a visual coincidence. It is unreasonable to assert that they intended the phenomenon, simply because we are able to observe it.

The question of how the AEs would have observed a coincidence of this nature is a cultural question predicated upon the fact that they DID observe this particular coincidence. We are not discussing that here. We are discussing the assertion by Don that the coincidence was intentionally designed into the multiple monuments built at this particular site. How anyone can even assert the intentionality of #1 above, when we don't even have evidence of #2 above, is beyond me.

I hope that clarifies the matter.

Anthony

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think.