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May 5, 2024, 9:04 pm UTC    
October 08, 2007 04:31PM
Anthony Wrote:
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> Ronald Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Why does the QC (most probably) doesn't have
> such
> > 'relieving chambers' then ? If the QC at
> first was
> > meant to be the actual burial chamber (in
> case
> > Khufu had passed away), why doesn't it bear
> such
> > chambers ?
>
>
> Exactly. If you follow this train of thought to
> its logical conclusion, what you find is the only
> structural difference between them is the Grand
> Gallery.
>
> Ergo, the concept of being overcautious after the
> Bent failure was probably weighing (pun intended)
> very heavily upon them.
>
>
>
> >
> > I said that maybe the GP was not
> sufficiently
> > pre-planned, but for the same money, the
> > architects knew very well that, because of a
> > pre-planned GG and a pre-planned height of
> the KC,
> > the gables hàd to be elevated, to avoid
> damage.
> >
>
> Take a look at this set of diagrams I did in a web
> article several years ago. (How time flies!).
>
> The relieving chambers are actually constructed to
> allow the entire burial chamber area to "float"
> within the body of the pyramid, like so:
>
>
>
> It is made free of shifting weights and downward
> pressure by the very design of it. Brilliant
> safety feature. The cautiousness of it is made
> evidence by the enormously complex steps they took
> to keep the weight of the pyramid from crushing
> down on the gables and forcing the southern wall
> of the Grand Gallery to implode inward. They knew
> exactly what they were doing with this. And, in
> all honesty, it may have been Khufu's observation,
> at the very outset of the project when he was
> probably looking at detailed diagrams and maybe
> even a scale model, that he was very worried about
> the roof of the burial chamber forcing the
> implosion of the Grand Gallery. It wouldn't
> matter whether we, as modern engineering types,
> felt it was a justified expense or not. If Khufu
> or Hemiunu felt it was a good enough reason, then
> by Khnum, it was a good enough reason!
>



> Incredible design from start to finish.


Yes. After comparing Khufu's KC and QC and realizing that the builders didn't take any risk and thus elevated the KC's gables high enough to avoid damage to the GG, there is, I think, no other logical explanation than that indeed we are confronted here with a start-to-finish design. But all this indicates that the architects must have had a lot of building-experience. But from where ? If I recall your picture of the preceeding Bent's subsidiary well, I don't think this pyramid contains 'relieving chambers' of the same sort above the burial chamber that elevate gables above the gallery's level ?


However, the scenario of necessarily corrected building plans (as pointed out by MJ), also is very possible.


Thanks for your explanation.


Ronald.
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Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Ronald October 08, 2007 02:17AM

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Ronald October 08, 2007 05:53AM

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C Wayne Taylor October 08, 2007 07:54AM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Ronald October 08, 2007 07:55AM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 08, 2007 12:00PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Ronald October 08, 2007 12:36PM

Relieving Chambers and their function

Anthony October 08, 2007 01:04PM

Re: Relieving Chambers and their function

Ronald October 08, 2007 04:31PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 08, 2007 02:37PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Anthony October 08, 2007 03:18PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 08, 2007 04:04PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Anthony October 08, 2007 07:03PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 04:01AM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 12:47PM

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Ronald October 08, 2007 05:06PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 08, 2007 06:00PM

I'll take these

Anthony October 08, 2007 07:07PM

Re: I'll take these

MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 04:27AM

Re: I'll take these

C Wayne Taylor October 09, 2007 06:14AM

Re: I'll take these

Anthony October 09, 2007 02:28PM

Re: I'll take these

Anthony October 09, 2007 02:27PM

Re: I'll take these

MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 04:23PM

Re: I'll take these

Warwick L Nixon October 09, 2007 04:33PM

Moderation note to sub-thread

Hermione October 09, 2007 04:43PM

Re: I'll take these

Warwick L Nixon October 09, 2007 09:35PM

Brilliant analogy!

Anthony October 10, 2007 08:53AM

Re: I'll take these

Warwick L Nixon October 09, 2007 04:26PM

Re: I'll take these

MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 04:59PM

Re: I'll take these

Warwick L Nixon October 09, 2007 09:11PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Ronald October 09, 2007 01:08AM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 08, 2007 02:07PM

Later Entries

Anthony October 08, 2007 02:13PM

Re: Later Entries

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Re: Later Entries

Anthony October 08, 2007 02:31PM

Re: Later Entries

Tommi Huhtamaki October 08, 2007 02:32PM

Re: Later Entries

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Anthony October 08, 2007 03:15PM

Re: Later Entries

MJ Thomas October 08, 2007 04:12PM

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MJ Thomas October 12, 2007 01:13PM

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MJ Thomas October 08, 2007 03:57PM

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RLH October 08, 2007 09:42PM

Re: Later Entries

MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 05:50AM

A separate tunnel

David Johnson October 09, 2007 06:53AM

Re: A separate tunnel

Anthony October 09, 2007 02:30PM

Re: A separate tunnel

RLH October 09, 2007 06:30PM

Re: A separate tunnel

Anthony October 09, 2007 08:27PM

Re: A separate tunnel

RLH October 09, 2007 10:09PM

"Digging" versus "Block Removal"

Anthony October 10, 2007 04:00AM

Re: "Digging" versus "Block Removal"

MJ Thomas October 10, 2007 04:44AM

Here we go again, and a request

Anthony October 10, 2007 08:41AM

Moderation note

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RLH October 10, 2007 07:20PM

Re: Later Entries

RLH October 09, 2007 06:28PM

Re: Later Entries

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Re: Later Entries

RLH October 09, 2007 10:13PM

Re: Later Entries

Warwick L Nixon October 09, 2007 10:17PM

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RLH October 09, 2007 10:30PM

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MJ Thomas October 10, 2007 04:22AM

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Anthony October 10, 2007 09:24AM

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MJ Thomas October 10, 2007 06:18PM

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Anthony October 11, 2007 04:31PM

Re: Later Entries

Warwick L Nixon October 12, 2007 12:17PM

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Hermione October 12, 2007 12:22PM

Jenga

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Hermione October 12, 2007 04:02PM

Re: Jenga

Anthony October 12, 2007 05:37PM

Re: Later Entries

Anthony October 10, 2007 03:55AM

Re: Later Entries

RLH October 10, 2007 06:57PM

Re: Later Entries

MJ Thomas October 11, 2007 04:23AM

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Anthony October 11, 2007 04:43PM

Re: Later Entries

RLH October 11, 2007 11:14PM

Re: Later Entries

C Wayne Taylor October 12, 2007 09:19AM

Re: Later Entries

RLH October 13, 2007 02:21PM

Centered entries, and being fooled by bad graphics

Anthony October 12, 2007 03:38PM

Moderation note

Tommi Huhtamaki October 12, 2007 03:51PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 03:48AM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Ronald October 09, 2007 06:12AM

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Ritva Kurittu October 09, 2007 06:42AM

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Ronald October 09, 2007 04:31PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Anthony October 10, 2007 09:51AM

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Ronald October 10, 2007 04:06PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Anthony October 10, 2007 06:14PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Ronald October 11, 2007 06:17AM

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Anthony October 12, 2007 03:35PM

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MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 08:24AM

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Ronald October 09, 2007 04:49PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

MJ Thomas October 09, 2007 05:37PM

Re: Comparison Khufu's QC and KC-chamber.

Ronald October 10, 2007 01:17AM

Ron & MJT

Anthony October 10, 2007 11:21AM

Re: Ron & MJT

Ritva Kurittu October 10, 2007 02:07PM

Re: Ron & MJT

Anthony October 10, 2007 02:36PM

Re: Ron & MJT

Ronald October 10, 2007 04:11PM

Re: Ron & MJT

Ritva Kurittu October 10, 2007 09:19PM

Re: Ron & MJT

Warwick L Nixon October 13, 2007 12:15PM

Brilliant line of reasoning

Anthony October 14, 2007 10:58AM

Re: Brilliant line of reasoning

Warwick L Nixon October 14, 2007 01:15PM



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