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May 8, 2024, 5:00 am UTC    
May 24, 2005 05:19PM
wirelessguru1 Wrote:
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> Mike, if one views space (distance) as nothing
> more than a wavelength

yes but there is no way in which we can be view space-time as a wavelength. It isn't and it doesn't work.

> then gravity is no
> different! Also, some of us subscribe to the view
> of the Electro-Magnetic EM Universe (or "Electric
> Universe" as some just call it!). So, in this
> case, space and time are just slaves to the EM
> forces...

I have actually read up on EU and am versed in what it says. I particularly like the hypocritical manner in which, on one hand its proponents point out the 'dark amtter fudge' in big bang theory, whilst amazingly saying that quasars are unobservable mathematical impossibilities, and making up an even fudgier answer to the very observable crab nebular pulsar (which is of course a very observable quasar). Big bang has its gaps and not tell all the story of the universe, but it has a lot fewer holes that EU


> So you don't understand, see or accept
> "anti-gravity"!
>
> I thought that this was the exact "point" that
> Dave L just introduced here from what the "U of N"
> scientists have been working on...

No thats exactly what the article doesn't say. In the article it CLEARLY states that electomagnetism is being used to negate gravity... it doesn't say or imply that gravity is being negated. Here is a quote from that artivcle... near the top in fact in case you didn't read it

"Peter King, a physics professor at Nottingham University, said: "We can take an object and float it in mid-air because the magnetic forces on the object are enough to balance gravity.""

As I am arguing. A stronger force (electromagnetism) exerting its influence over a smaller distance balancing gravity (the weaker force). Not this anti-gravity nonesense you are talking about.


> If anti-gravity was to completely or fully cancel
> out gravity, then we would have a big crunch...
> So, to a certain extend, outer-space and inner
> space are also in balance, since those forces also
> cancel each other out when stuff is in balance...
>
> So, nuclear force is strong in inner space and
> gets weak on outerspace and weak force is weak in
> inner space, but become strong as EM in outer
> space. This what string/matrix theory suggests
> and EM/wave theory shows plenty of evidence of the
> strength of EM forces in outer space as you have
> correctly suggested...

I can't agree with anything you've said here, as there is no such thing as anti-gravity. If there is please show me how it has been measured, where, when, what articles have been published on the subject and I wouldn't even mind reading up on some of the debate by peers on the subject. I am interested in the subject but can't see where you are coming from (please stop trying to put everything as waves and wavelengths... )

> I guess that we just see the Universe
> differently!!!
>
> -wirelessguru1

Indeed.

Anyway I'll be on again tomorrow.

MikeS
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University of Nottingham scientists develop genuine antigravity machine.

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MikeS May 24, 2005 05:19PM

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wirelessguru1 May 24, 2005 06:24PM

Magnetic repulsion is *not* anti-gravity per se (n/t)

Stephen Tonkin May 24, 2005 11:53PM

So what is anti-gravity to you? (n/t)

wirelessguru1 May 25, 2005 12:07AM

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MikeS May 25, 2005 04:43AM

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A farce NOT a force ! n/t

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wirelessguru1 May 25, 2005 02:49PM

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scalar wave info

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