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May 4, 2024, 7:27 pm UTC    
September 17, 2001 12:27AM
<HTML>Don Barone wrote:
[...]

> Call it Anti-American, call it anything you damn well please

I call it 'conspiracy theories devoid of evidence'.

> but the facts remain the facts.

...and conspiracy theories remain conspiracy theories.

> Even now certain rights
> that have been fought for are quietly being recinded.

If you consider it a <i>right</i> to have ineffectual intelligence and security services, then maybe you have a point, but given that one of the most shocking things about this whole horror is the spectacular failure of intelligence and security, you might wish to consider just how you improve their effectiveness if you don't give them real teeth. If you have concrete suggestions, let's hear them! I see a right to an untapped telephone to be a significantly lesser right than a right to life, and I would (admittedly, in retrospect) gladly have accepted 5 <b>million</b> tapped telephones if it could have averted those 5 thousand deaths .


> Troubling times ahead for all of us I am afraid. I wonder
> how many on this and the board over yonder are included in
> this list of 60 countries.

Well, given that London has recently been called the 'terrorist capital of the world' and that the BBC has just reported that US intelligence believes there to be between 30 and 50 terrorist cells still operating in the US....</HTML>
Subject Author Posted

The Necessity of Action

Garrett September 16, 2001 08:05AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Derek Barnett September 16, 2001 08:33AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

William T. September 17, 2001 06:32AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Don Holeman September 16, 2001 10:57AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Claire September 16, 2001 11:52AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Don Holeman September 16, 2001 12:56PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Claire September 16, 2001 01:12PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Garrett September 16, 2001 01:44PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Katherine Reece September 16, 2001 05:43PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

D.Przezdziecki September 17, 2001 07:28AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Robert G. Bauval September 16, 2001 01:12PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Don Holeman September 16, 2001 01:22PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Mercury Rapids September 16, 2001 01:41PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Garrett September 16, 2001 01:49PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Mikey Brass September 16, 2001 06:00PM

Robert, please note...

Anthony September 16, 2001 03:32PM

Re: Robert, please note...

ISHMAEL September 16, 2001 04:29PM

Re: Robert, please note...

Jason September 16, 2001 05:09PM

Re: Robert, please note...

Katherine Reece September 17, 2001 07:57AM

Re: Robert, please note...

Anthony September 17, 2001 08:01AM

Re: Robert, please note...

Mikey Brass September 17, 2001 08:25AM

Re: Robert, please note...

Anonymous User September 17, 2001 08:36AM

As a Democrat

Katherine Reece September 17, 2001 11:31AM

Re: As a Democrat

Anthony September 18, 2001 02:04PM

Re: Outside observation

Mark Fagan September 19, 2001 02:10AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

D.Przezdziecki September 16, 2001 03:50PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Don Holeman September 16, 2001 04:02PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

D.Przezdziecki September 16, 2001 04:53PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Don Holeman September 16, 2001 05:26PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Don Barone September 16, 2001 07:00PM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Stephen Tonkin September 17, 2001 12:27AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Anonymous User September 17, 2001 05:51AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Claire September 17, 2001 06:37AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Anonymous User September 17, 2001 07:11AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Claire September 17, 2001 07:34AM

Re: The Necessity of Action

Anonymous User September 17, 2001 08:21AM



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