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May 19, 2024, 2:48 pm UTC    
December 28, 2006 09:17AM
Joe Schiller Wrote:
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> Well Charlotte, I can’t fully follow your
> understanding since it is mythological.

I would say my understanding is pealed out of mythology, as real events on earth, as well as cosmic phenomena observed by the Ancients in our history is told in the form of myths and legends. This is glaringly obvious because interpreted strictly at face value, the accounts must be dismissed as so much fancyful thinking or superstition because they don't make any sence. Universal principles, natures forces, such as the wind or current, or the quantum entities vibrating in the subatomic realm, as well as subjective "forces" within us, the "psychological spectra", and without, for example that force which makes a plant grow, the doubleness of things, one visibly the other not, things abstract have to be given "a habitation and a name", or as the poet puts it: "to lend significane to chancy shapes",(is what quantum physics does), for the mind to grasp. It is the old axiom of Hermes "as above so below", and they mingle, and when this concept is accepted "that which is hidden to the many will be most manifest to you."

There is no such thing as "mythological understanding." My philosophy teacher: "No one ever became real by myth, the function of a mystology is to deliver us to the inner symbolic world. Mythology defines who we are in worldly terms." A Lakota teacher: "Every generation needs a myth and tell it." Mythology is a vihicle for dialog.

I am a
> rationalist and have found for me that an
> understanding of human history can be had by
> analyzing sexuality and applying that analysis to
> what remains to us.

Partially.

In my view cultural gender
> can be understood thus:
>
> Having understood it that way, I find that history
> makes rational sense. It demystifies it.
> Something is lost of course, romance and art, but
> the trade is worth it if understanding is the
> goal.

There is nothing unrational about Plato's and the Hopi account of Atlantis, as I tried to explain, exeedingly difficult because so many other things have to be brought in and considered, and I only touched on it. Much like a physicist trying to explain quantum theory to people in scientific terms.


> I have no quarrel with your view, it is consistent
> with Plato, though I would say Donnelly is too.

I never read Donnelly. How comes it that the story of "Atlanis" by Plato and the Hopi,is told in the Mahabharata and the Popol Vuh, the gods not satisfied with their "wooden"= matter creation, and their Forefathers discussing how to improve the human race, the songs of the "Edda", the Teutonic/Titon lore, singing of the time of "The Sea People", by the way, the Bible and Koran, and other sources, are in essence all the same? These things belong to the world of mind/nous, framed at the edges by a story.

The Rosicrucian tell the same story in a book "LEMURIA", subtitled "The Lost Continent Of The Pacific" by Wishar S. Cervé.

DEDICATION

In appreciation of the first researches
into history of the lost continents of ATLANTIS AND LEMURIA
made by that brilliant mind and soul, SIR FRANCIS BACON
this book is dedicated to his memory and everlasting greatness of character smiling smiley

As I said before, the devil is in interpretation:

"When you hear of the fables of the Egyptian concerning their gods - their wanderings, cutting to pieces and other mishaps, you should not suppose that any of then happened or was done in the manner related." Plutarch.

The best to you.

Charlotte
>
>
> Meden Agan
>






Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2006 09:51AM by Charlotte Masuda.
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Atlantis

Joe Schiller December 21, 2006 02:10PM

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Dave L December 21, 2006 03:55PM

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Dave L December 22, 2006 02:45PM

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rich December 21, 2006 04:00PM

A doomed German aristocracy

Dave L December 21, 2006 05:42PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 22, 2006 09:27AM

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Dave L December 23, 2006 08:54AM

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Byrd December 21, 2006 08:24PM

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rich December 22, 2006 11:09AM

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Charlotte Masuda December 22, 2006 10:18AM

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Doug Weller December 22, 2006 11:30AM

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Charlotte Masuda December 22, 2006 12:50PM

With all due respect....

Dave L December 22, 2006 01:53PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 22, 2006 09:52PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 23, 2006 10:40AM

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Pacal December 25, 2006 01:14PM

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Joe Schiller December 26, 2006 01:45PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 27, 2006 03:32PM

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Roxana Cooper December 23, 2006 02:16PM

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Doug Weller December 23, 2006 02:42PM

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Hans December 24, 2006 06:26AM

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Charlotte Masuda December 24, 2006 06:58AM

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Doug Weller December 24, 2006 07:56AM

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Charlotte Masuda December 26, 2006 12:15PM

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Roxana Cooper December 24, 2006 01:01PM

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Rick Baudé December 24, 2006 01:23PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 27, 2006 03:51PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 26, 2006 11:59AM

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Roxana Cooper December 24, 2006 12:59PM

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Joe Schiller December 24, 2006 01:19PM

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Roxana Cooper December 25, 2006 10:15AM

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Charlotte Masuda December 27, 2006 04:23PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 27, 2006 02:43PM

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Joe Schiller December 27, 2006 04:11PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 28, 2006 09:17AM

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Joe Schiller December 28, 2006 05:27PM

Moderation Note

Katherine Reece December 28, 2006 05:30PM

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Charlotte Masuda December 29, 2006 08:05AM

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Jammer December 27, 2006 04:52PM

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Joe Schiller December 27, 2006 06:24PM

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Pacal December 31, 2006 01:02PM

Re: Atlantis

Joe Schiller December 31, 2006 01:50PM

A new tale of Atlantis!

rich January 01, 2007 02:35AM

Re: A new tale of Atlantis!

Joe Schiller January 01, 2007 01:17PM

Re: A new tale of Atlantis!

Doug Weller January 01, 2007 02:41PM

Re: A new tale of Atlantis!

rich January 01, 2007 05:44PM

Re: A new tale of Atlantis!

rich January 01, 2007 09:46PM

Re: A new tale of Atlantis!

rich January 02, 2007 03:47PM

Re: A new tale of Atlantis!

Doug Weller January 02, 2007 04:39PM

Re: A new tale of Atlantis!

rich January 04, 2007 03:37PM

Re: A new tale of Atlantis!

Charlotte Masuda January 05, 2007 08:19AM

I found the war of Athena.

rich January 11, 2007 04:41PM

Re: Atlantis

Joe Schiller January 01, 2007 04:20PM

Re: Atlantis

Joe Schiller January 01, 2007 06:40PM

Corrected

Pacal March 07, 2007 02:39PM



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