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May 29, 2024, 4:10 am UTC    
December 26, 2006 12:55AM
Joe Schiller Wrote:
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> Pierre,
> You and others seem to think that if Atlantis
> existed there would be numerous clear memories of
> it even though there are no clear memories of the
> building of the pyramids.

I would like o see more evidence for it. All we have is a single allegorical text. If we had anything else, anything at all, it would be enormously helpful.



You and others see
> nothing unexpected about Egyptian civilization
> even though you would not credit a suggestion that
> we create a new civilization based on the Star
> Wars series.

You ever go to a science fiction convention? winking smiley

You accept that at one time
> civilization didn't exist but you have no
> suggestion explaining how it came about other than
> a feeling that it was a natural evolution from
> whatever preexisted it in Egypt.

No one is certain what triggered the rise of civilization. It was almost certainly a mix of factors. It is a mystery why certain areas developed while contemporaries did not; any answer is really an educated guess, an attempt to sort out the vagaries of history & make sense of the past.

We know the AE's
> were creating gods, creating religious texts,
> building places of worship, and placing the
> current pharaoh in that context. Where did those
> brilliant ideas come from?

Religion is extremely old, as is leadership. Burial practices from Neaderthals on bear this out. These are seen in every single human culture. There may be a basic biological reason, or it may be that these are the things that make us human. In any event, they don't come from Atlantis; they are far too old.


How long would it take
> to develop those ideas and sell them to the
> population? Where did the inspiration come from?

You are presuming a top-down imposition of religion, for which there seems to be no evidence. When the AE conquered an area, the people already had a religion; the Egyptian pantheon was put into place alongside it, and the local gods absorbed/assimilated. There was no need to 'sell' the populace on it.

Cheers
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Atlantis

Joe Schiller December 21, 2006 02:10PM

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rich December 21, 2006 04:00PM

A doomed German aristocracy

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With all due respect....

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Joe Schiller December 31, 2006 01:50PM

A new tale of Atlantis!

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I found the war of Athena.

rich January 11, 2007 04:41PM

Re: Atlantis

Joe Schiller January 01, 2007 04:20PM

Re: Atlantis

Joe Schiller January 01, 2007 06:40PM

Corrected

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