I read Reeves' paper with great interest, and think he has some compelling arguments. Wrote a blog post about it a couple of weeks ago, in case anyone's interested:
Even as a hardbitten skeptic, I'm letting myself indulge in some rare wishing and hoping over this. If there's anything to it, just think of the debates it could settle. You might even be able to pave over the
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In case anyone's interested, I've reviewed this movie on my blog:
tl;dr version: "Gorgeous, yes, but otherwise Exodus: Gods and Kings was about as gripping as watching the gilt dry on a faked Egyptian antiquity."
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The trailer shows a pyramid - G2, probably - under construction. The ramps look great, but...in the Nineteenth Dynasty??
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So the locals will be penalized, and not the perps. Dadgummit.
BTW, I've done a blog post about this, with a big tip of the hat to HoM and Martin Stower:
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> Hmmmn... seems odd to make all these
> statements/claims and not give one specific
> example or photo......
The OP article is just a press release. It links to Molloy's scholarly article, which has lots of specific examples and photos.
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> Very interested. I love your opening paragraphs.
Thanks!
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Rick Baudé Wrote:
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> HI Rebby doing fine. Thanks for the explanation,
> I always love this kind of stuff, because I wonder
> what archeologists will think 3-5K years from now
> when they these run down reconstructions.
That's hilarious.
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Hey Rick, how are you?
"Concretan civilization" refers to the fact that a huge proportion of what's visible at Knossos is Sir Arthur's "reconstitution" in reinforced concrete, based to a large degree on speculation, wishful thinking, blithe assumptions, and overconfident extrapolations from things like the Town Mosaic. Same thing goes for the "reconstructio
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I agree, Roxana. It's good to see that the popular conception of the Minoans and the whole prehistoric matriarchy thing are being undermined by some clear-eyed reassessment of the archaeological record. I've just done an article about this, briefly tying together the now-abandoned "unilineal cultural evolution" of nineteenth-century scholars (which hugely affected Evans'
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> > Yes, of course I read that article - back
> when it
> > first came out.
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> Then I suggest you read it again.
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> > I also watched....
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> Since you skipped over my links witho
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Lee Olsen Wrote:
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> Rebby, did you read the article that started this
> thread?
> Did you read my references? I don't see that you
> have added anything new.
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Yes, of course I
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Lee, did you read my article? The flurry of news articles last month referencing Ballard and Noah's Flood were, I repeat, publicity for "an ABC News special in which Christiane Amanpour plays tourist in biblical places, incidentally interviewing Ballard about Noah’s flood". He was not reporting anything new, and the hype predictably focused on "scientific evidence for the Bi
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At the time this "story" broke, I did a bit of research into the background and wrote it up as a blog article. To boil it down, the story was not news, it was PR for a tv special; the original Black Sea Deluge hypothesis has been largely falsified; and Ballard's so-called evidence for a habitation site on the submerged shoreline was quietly acknowledged to be a natural feature as
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Gary Daniels Wrote:
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> > Once again, what the heck are you talking about
> Bernard. That passage was written by Rebby NOT me.
> So why are you responding to me? You are confusing
> two separate posts by two separate people. If you
> have a problem with Rebby's comments then reply to
> Rebby.
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Gary: I ju
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Guys, there’s some history here you should know about. PZ Myers has had a hate on for EP for some time, for reasons that appear to be more political than scientific. This article is more temperately written than most of his, and presents a veneer of PZ knowing what he’s talking about, but he is in fact grossly misrepresenting an entire field of respectable and exciting scientific research. Scr
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> the
> > stochastic influx of cosmic bodies, and the
> Maya
> > could then have constructed a calendar from
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The mods have kindly given me permission to announce the advent of a new skeptic/agnostic blog salon, of which I am a happy and humble member: the Skeptic Ink Network - SIN for short. We include a large range of writers, including scientists, educators, lawyers, philosophers, and historians. The network URL is:
My own blog, The Lateral Truth, specializes in fiction on skeptical or reli
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Happy belated birthday, Paul! My 60th was in August - clearly 1952 (Year of the Water Dragon) was a very good year! And yes, 60 feels fine.
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> > The study above was conducted by the University of
> Ga. Notice that this source is also validating the
> fact that the Yoruba, Egyptian linguistic
> connection is infact more than a conincidence
> overplayed by "Afrocentrics", that there is valid
> scholarly acknowledgement the
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> snip... This was of course a side
> argument, but Rebby felt that this was such an
> important part of my argument that she needed to
> create a thread specifically about this
> relationship. None the less I've provided a
> sufficient amount of evidence indicating that West
> African c
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> I'm really not interested in your contrarian
> opinion. You will not even acknowledge the fact
> that the ancient Egyptians were black when
> authorities spell it out for you, so anything of
> less merit that relies on COMMON SENSE and
> objectivity is out of the question for you.
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MKGlouisville scatterblasted Hall of Maat with “evidence” from genetics, linguistics, art history and archaeology, all supposedly supporting his view that the Ancient Egyptians were rooted in subSaharan “black” Africa. In this thread, I’d like to continue looking critically at the non-genetic evidence he presented.
QuoteIngoring your irrelevant analysis of the pyramids in Nigeria, I'll
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> snip...I noted
> through several examples why this is false, and
> one of those examples were the pyrmaids and sphinx
> in Niger. Anywho if you want to dismiss that as
> evidence then I can just point to the Nsude
> pyramids in Nigeria:
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> [3.bp.blogspot.com]
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Still interested in MKGlouisville's response to this, and don't want the issue forgotten. Will you be dropping the "twin pyramids and sphinx in Niger" from your list of evidence, MKG?
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> I'm not going to make any conclusions about this
> because I still haven't been able to read the
> article nor have I seen ANYTHING else dismissive
> of these "findings". Also your explanation of the
> Sphinx makes not sense (it being a natural
> occurence):
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> The
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> Sorry I can't read, do you know anyway to
> translate what is being said.
Search around on your browser to find a translation tool. What is says basically is that a team of actual scientists went to Dan Baki and confirmed that the "pyramid" was a natural feature, a kind of hill very common
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> ...snip.... Are you also aware of the
> fact that earlier this year two twin pyramids and
> a Sphinx older than that of Egypt were
> "discovered" in a remote village in Niger?
Are you referring to this? It's transparent rubbish, though the interview with Garba is worth a giggle or
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I think clairyfairy's being ironic. The "quote" is Semir Osmanagich's strawman version of the archaeological consensus. But here is what really happened, according to the intrepid Osmanagich:
"In the 9th century something occurs which is an enigma for historians and archeologists. One after another all leading centers of the Maya are abandoned. There is no evidence
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The classic archaeological analysis of collapse is Joseph Tainter's Collapse of Complex Societies. The basic definition of societal collapse that he uses, which has wide currency in archaeology, has nothing to do with value judgments, depopulations, or doomsdays: it boils down to reversion to less complex social organization, for example from a state to a complex chiefdom. And it can be a
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> If you are correct then the BBC book is not as
> good a history as I had thought. See for example,
> page 8 and page 10.
I'm not sure which BBC book is meant, but it's a fairly widespread misconception that G1 solely and specifically was on the ancient lists of wonders. Which I suppose is yet a
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