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May 3, 2024, 6:00 am UTC    
September 24, 2010 02:49PM
> If you flip a coin twenty times the odds that it
> will come up all heads or all tails are quite slim
> (1: 2 ^ 20). But the odds it will come up the way
> it does come up are just exactly equally slim yet
> it will come up with some result by definition.
> Certainly you wouldn’t claim it’s improbable to
> flip a coin 20 times because the odds are so poor.


What you are arguing here is that unlikely things happen. Nobody is denying that, and it has nothing to do with Jammer's argument.

When one is building a theory or a hypothesis, one should make it as likely as possible in the light of existing evidence. Jammer pointed out that very little of your fantasies are based on evidence, and therefore, when you count the product of the likelihood of the different assumptions you are making, the extreme weakness should come apparent even to you.

It sure has to everyone else a long time ago. No matter if ramps were used: the weakness of an existing theory doesn't give anyone the right to replace it with their fantasies.

Tolstoi existed, so does War and Peace. Any theory based on those is based on a certainty, likelihood of 1, no matter what the odds are of them having become into existence.



Regards,
Tommi

"In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
-Homer J. Simpson



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 09/24/2010 03:38PM by Tommi Huhtamaki.
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CK Geysers, lets look at probability math...

Jammer September 24, 2010 11:51AM

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Rick Baudé September 24, 2010 11:59AM

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cladking September 24, 2010 01:39PM

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Tommi Huhtamaki September 24, 2010 02:49PM

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cladking September 27, 2010 11:43AM

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Anthony September 24, 2010 04:44PM

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Rick Baudé September 24, 2010 04:54PM

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Anthony September 24, 2010 08:00PM

Re: CK Geysers, lets look at probability math...

cladking September 27, 2010 11:47AM

Re: CK Geysers, lets look at probability math...

Warwick L Nixon September 27, 2010 12:24PM

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Byrd September 25, 2010 07:01PM

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Khazar-khum September 25, 2010 09:26PM

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Pistol September 25, 2010 09:45PM

Question for CK

Khazar-khum September 26, 2010 08:18PM

Re: Question for CK

cladking September 26, 2010 08:55PM

Translation

Anthony September 27, 2010 03:52AM

Re: Question for CK

Warwick L Nixon September 27, 2010 10:36AM

Re: Question for CK

cladking September 27, 2010 11:12AM

Re: Question for CK

Warwick L Nixon September 27, 2010 12:05PM

Re: CK Geysers, lets look at probability math...

cladking September 27, 2010 12:23PM

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Warwick L Nixon September 27, 2010 12:27PM

Re: CK Geysers, lets look at probability math...

cladking September 27, 2010 12:20PM

Re: CK Geysers, lets look at probability math...

cladking September 27, 2010 12:11PM

Re: CK Geysers, lets look at probability math...

Warwick L Nixon September 27, 2010 12:17PM

Re: CK Geysers, lets look at probability math...

cladking September 27, 2010 12:37PM

I'll approach just one paragraph

Warwick L Nixon September 27, 2010 10:21AM

**Thread closure**

Hermione September 27, 2010 12:45PM



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